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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:41 am 
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I was reading some of the old news articles from the 1990s about Wayne Dumond last night and I came across a statement by Dr. Moses Schanfield stating that the DNA evidence exonerated Wayne Dumond.

Dr. Schanfield is now the Chairman of George Washington University's Forensic Science Department (http://www.gwu.edu/~media/pressreleases ... nfield.cfm) ... certainly not a right wing kook. Since the article was rather shrill, I emailed Dr. Schanfield to see if he stood by the quote. He wrote back first thing this morning that he did.

Wayne Dumond was obviously a bad man, but we learned in the Duke Rape Case last year ... that things can get out of control and person can be convicted of a crime they didn't commit. If one of those Duke Lacrosse players goes and kills a woman this year, it is not PROOF that Nifong should have locked them up for a crime they didn't commit.

I don't know all the facts in this case or Dumond's guilt or innocence, but I do know that the we as the grassroots support of Gov. Huckabee need to put the national media in touch with Dr. Moses Schanfield BEFORE they crucify Gov. Huckabee on this issue. Below is my correspondence:


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Moses Schanfield <mschanfi@gwu.edu> wrote:
From: Moses Schanfield <mschanfi@gwu.edu>
To: gideon@alumni.duke.edu
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 08:11:03 -0500
Subject: Re: Dumond Case

Though I do not have access to the case files. My recollection is that the based on the analysis of the evidence in the case, the statement was accurate.



----- Original Message -----
From: Gideon Moore
Date: Thursday, December 6, 2007 12:44 am
Subject: Dumond Case
To: mschanfi@gwu.edu


> Dear Dr.Schanfield:
>
> I am sure you are incredibly busy, and I hope you do not mind my
> inquiry. However, I've recently been following the Wayne Dumond case
> and Governor Mike Huckabee's decision to release Wayne Dumond.
>
> I found the following quotes in a 1996 New York Post article by
> Steve Dunleavy (
>
> Dwayne Harris, a spokesman for Huckabee, the Republican lieutenant
> governor who will succeed Democrat Tucker, told me Friday that Huckabee
> "has voiced a very special intention to thoroughly review the case of
> Wayne Dumond."
>
> "I hope so," Dr. Moses Schanfield told me Friday. "This case was a disgrace."
> Schanfield heads the Analytic Genetic Testing Center in Denver.
>
> He was one of the experts dispatched to Bosnia to examine and identify
> graves after the civil war there.
>
> He did an independent Allotyping test of sperm of the alleged victim's
> jeans, which supposedly came from Dumond.
>
> "No way, zip, nada. Didn't happen. No way Dumond was the donor of that
> sperm," Schanfield said. "The girl's scenario of the so-called crime
> couldn't have happened. I didn't believe anything she said."
>
> I realize it has been a long time, but my question is simple ... Do
> you stand by those quotes?
>
> Thanks so much, and again I'm sorry for bring up an old subject.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Gideon Moore
> gideon@alumni.duke.edu


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:02 pm 
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Thanks for the info! Have you emailed any of the major media outlets yet? If not, I'm sure Huck's Army could help out. We could post the information in the Grassroots section to get the army in gear, if you think that would help.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:30 pm 
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I've forwarded it to as many as I could find email addresses ... However, anything you can do to get this story out would certainly be helpful

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:54 pm 
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Maybe Ms. Huffington should be made aware of this. And how about the New York Times?
Should each of just go ahead and email people individually, what's the concensus here? It seems like such significant and sensitive information we need to handle it scrupulously and in a way that gives it the most bang for the buck..


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I wonder why this hasn't come up before??? Can we say cover-up?

From what I can tell Dumond was not a good guy but he didn't commit the crime he was prosecuted for.

-DNA proved he couldn't have raped Ashley Stevens, third cousin of Bill Clinton
-Stevens could not identify Dumond as her attacker

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:41 pm 
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I would hesitate to say "cover-up". This guy made his analysis 11 years ago ... it was written about in an article, but no one (whether a supporter or opponent) has thought to track him down until last night. He is obviously willing to talk ... since he sent such a quick reply this morning.

I'd argue that we need to take a compassionate response to this victim. Study after study shows that victims and bystanders can be completely convinced in what they saw and be completely wrong. For all we know, she was raped by someone who may still be on the streets and in the course of a traumatic experience she wasn't able to identify her attacker ... the fact that she may have convinced herself that it was Dumond is not surprising at all. It is something for which she deserves compassion.

I would make the comparison to the Duke Lacrosse Case as much as possible. There was a eyewitness and a witch trial that nearly destroyed three young men's lives ... but the DNA/physical evidence exonerated them. In Dumond's case, he certainly wasn't the charming fellow press reports made him out to be, but it is possible that this sexual predator was convicted of the one crime he didn't commit ... and we can't keep folks in jail for crimes they don't commit ... As Gov. Huckabee says "we're better than that".


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:45 pm 
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It also is not far fetched to say Dumond became what society said he was...

Although I have not idea the type of person he was before the conviction, and he may have been a dirtbag back then too... :cry:

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I will ask the admins and we'll get a consensus about the best way to do this, and get back with you...

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Okay, I'm going to post your letters in the Grassroots forum, so we can get some people moving on this...

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:10 pm 
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Sounds good ...


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:49 pm 
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I received information today regarding Dr. Moses Schanfield's statement concerning Wayne Dumond's DNA not matching up with that of the rapist.

It would seem this would certainly serve as a substantial rebuttal to many of the allegations that are being leveled at Mike. I will be looking into this further and hopefully we can put this one to rest in the near future.

Thank you for being so attentive.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:01 am 
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Check out this post from Phxrising in another thread.

Quote:
June 1996 Steve Dunleavy article:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthrea ... did=111268

A TRAVESTY OF JUSTICE

(HOW GOV. CLINTON DENIED AN INNOCENT MAN HIS FREEDOM)

New York Post
by Steve Dunleavy

The bombshell Whitewater convictions that my be President Clinton's
darkest hour gave a middle-aged Arkansas housewife her brightest moment.
"Now that the Clinton people are going to jail, maybe my husband will
finally go free," Mary Lou Dumond told me in Little Rock.
Her husband, Wayne Dumond, 49, has just spent his 11th year in an
Arkansas jail.
Many say that Dumond is the victim of one of the most bone-crunching and
infuriating examples of Clinton-clan justice the country has ever seen.
And now, because Clinton's alleged bagman, Gov. Jimmy Guy Tucker, is
going to jail, Dumond is set to see freedom.
"The new governor, Mike Huckabee, has assured me Wayne will be a free
man," Mrs. Dumond said Thursday.
"He is not one of the Clinton crowd. He is a very fair man. He has
always been disturbed about the way the Clinton people never wanted my
husband free," she added.
And there was a very good reason for the Clinton people not wanting her
husband to go free.

THE CHARGES

The story of Wayne Dumond is not for the innocent eyes of the young -
but every adult of voting age should read closely.
These are the cold facts as an Arkansas court saw it:

- A 17-year-old girl says she was kidnapped and raped on Sept. 11, 1984,
in Forrest City, Ark.

- Dumond, father of six, Vietnam veteran, churchgoer, was convicted in
August 1985 of the rape.

- He was sentenced to life PLUS 20 years.

- An appeal by Dumond, under Gov. Clinton, got a response of: "No merit."

What the public did not see, while Bill Clinton was governor of
Arkansas, were the following very unpretty facts - which Clinton, despite
countless personal appeals, ignored:

- A genetic expert stated unequivocally that sperm found on the girl's
jeans COULD NOT "IN A MILLION YEARS" belong to Dumond.

- The victim identified two other men as her rapist but they had
ironclad alibis and were set free.

- She failed to pick out Dumond as her rapist when presented with a lineup.

But now the clincher:

- The father of the girl is a millionaire and one of Clinton's biggest
contributors.

But guess what? The girl is Bill Clinton's cousin. And her mother worked
as part of Clinton's inner circle when he was governor.
The worst was yet to come.

THE HORROR

On March 7, 1985, while Dumond was awaiting trial, two masked men with
guns and knives burst into his house.
They hog-tied him. They raped him.
And then, with surgical scalpels, they castrated him.
[Now get this]
The two monsters ACTED ON ORDERS OF LOCAL SHERIFF COOLIDGE CONLEE!
The sheriff retrieved Dumond's testicles from Dumond's blood- spattered house.
The sheriff then placed the body parts in a jar that he displayed on his
desk with the admonition:
"That's what happens to people who fool around in my county."
The sheriff actually took that jar to "a good-ol'-boys wedding."
That is a fact.
No reaction whatsoever from Gov. Clinton.
[Now hold on to your seat for this]
The sheriff - who didn't tolerate any "fooling around" in his county -
would later be nabbed by the FBI for extortion and drug-dealing and
sentenced to 160 years in jail, where he died of natural causes.
Dumond's attackers were never picked up even though ONE OF THEM
CONFESSED TO A STATE COP!
All this and Dumond still rotted away in prison.
And Clinton, both as governor and president, ignored facts that
surrounded the case of the rape of his cousin.
"Bitter? Hell yes, I was, at first," Dumond told me from prison at
Varner in Arkansas.
But now, I think, I hope, things will change around. With Jimmy Guy
Tucker gone as governor, one of Clinton's men, and Mr. Clinton running for
cover, maybe the new man will have another look.
"But strange as it may seem, it hasn't been all that bad these days. I
have gotten a very good education in here. I think I am becoming a
computer nut [wait until he discovers this BB]. I just miss my family, so
much.
"That girl? Well it's pretty ridiculous. Sad, but ridiculous.
"She told the police that a man in a new red pickup truck, with no
tailgate, drove to her house, burst in, forced her into her car, drove in
her car to some woods, tied her up, committed a pretty terrible act, drove
her back in her car and took off in her car and dumped it nearby.
"Well, I drove a very old dirty brown pickup with a tailgate. Now, if I
took her car, what happened to the pickup I drove to her house in?
"She changed her story, how many times? I mean many times. [Well we know
one thing, she sure had to be related to Clinton - changing one's story
must run in the family.]
"She was with this guy driving through town and suddenly, out of
nowhere, months after, she saw me driving my old pickup truck. She told
the guy out of nowhere: 'That's the man that did it.' She said I had raped
her.
"When it came to the lineup, she couldn't identify me. Suddenly she
disappears into a room with her father and a cop who showed here a picture
of me. She came out and immediately identified me."



THE CONVICTION

The outrageous identifying scam was exposed by a local cop who witnessed
it all.
Deputy Sheriff Henry Leary had the guts to go against his own and told
the world of the scenario. Dumond was still convicted.
"Oh yeah," Dumond told me, "she identified two other guys who were the
rapists. They had an ironclad alibi. Then it came to me."
Dumond was still convicted. Gov. Clinton remained silent.
But of course at that time nobody knew that the girl was Clinton's
cousin. The governor didn't mention it.
After 4.5 years, with his freedom gone, his manhood gone, a five-person
parole board recommended that Dumond go free for time served.
John R. Steer, managing editor of the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, records
the following reaction from then-Gov. Clinton:
"Clinton had a romping, stomping fit. The victim was a distant cousin
and St. Francis County [where this all took place] had a lot of votes and
he deeply resented the pressure to free Dumond."
Clinton refused to sign a release.
And Dumond rotted.
Dumond has since been before the parole board twice.
"They ask me: 'Do you have any remorse?' Well, I tell them straight. How
can I have remorse for something I didn't do?
"No sir, I will stay here until I die before I say I am sorry for
something I haven't done."
The day of the castration is not something that should be dealt with in
detail [in a family newspaper].
"My two boys, Michael and Joey, found me there after coming home from
school. They cut me loose and got help." he said.
"Sure I remember it, but do you really want to know the details?"
Dumond's life was miraculously saved after he lost three-quarters of his
blood.
As he lay near death, Sheriff Coolidge Conlee displayed Dumond's
testicles in a jar.
Still no reaction from Gov. Clinton.

THE HOPE

The Dumonds later won a lawsuit "of outrage." They cleared just $20,000
from the settlement.
This money came in handy however, because someone burned down the Dumond
house when the couple were in hiding from vigilantes.
No insurance was paid on the home.
Can this story get worse?
"Sometimes," said Mrs. Dumond, "I just want to give up. But now, who
knows? The new governor has personally assured me that Wayne's case will
be the first thing on his desk, after he clears up everything from this
Whitewater thing."
Dwayne Harris, a spokesman for Huckabee, the Republican lieutenant
governor who will succeed Democrat Tucker, told me Friday that Huckabee
"has voiced a very special intention to thoroughly review the case of
Wayne Dumond."
"I hope so," Dr. Moses Schanfield told me Friday. "This case was a disgrace."
Schanfield heads the Analytic Genetic Testing Center in Denver.
He was one of the experts dispatched to Bosnia to examine and identify
graves after the civil war there.
He did an independent Allotyping test of sperm of the alleged victim's
jeans, which supposedly came from Dumond.
"No way, zip, nada. Didn't happen. No way Dumond was the donor of that
sperm," Schanfield said. "The girl's scenario of the so-called crime
couldn't have happened. I didn't believe anything she said."

WHY IT HAPPENED

Fred Odam, a retired Arkansas State Police captain told me "This was and
still is a very bad day for justice."
Odam witnessed Sheriff Conlee retrieving Dumond's testicles and later
investigated the sheriff for the FBI.
"I have been working to get that boy Dumond free for a long time. In all
my time this is the one case when I know a man is not guilty."
What was the crazed motive behind this disgusting affair?
Why Dumond?
Gene Wirges, a fiesty 67-year-old publisher of a local weekly who is
writing a book on this mess, told me:
"Well, a Clinton kin had to be revenged. The sheriff was on a hot seat
and young Wayne had been talking to a church group about how cars were
suddenly disappearing.
"It turned out to be true. The sheriff along with his drugs, and turning
the sheriff's department into a casino was heading up a car-theft ring.
"When this girl said she was raped, the sheriff wanted to help out the
Clinton clan [so that they might look the other way with respect to his
illegal doings]. He would do anything for the girl's father and mother.
"The truth, the terrible truth is, that one of the guys she first
identified as the rapist but who had an ironclad alibi had been going out
with the girl.
"But the new governor has indicated to me on several occasions that he
was more than disturbed about Wayne's case and the way Clinton and his
boys handled this terrible thing.
"You know, this is Arkansas. Right up until now this has been Clinton
territory. Maybe not anymore."

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This story is amazing!! I knew the Clintons were bad guys, but I had no idea that stuff like this was happening in our country. Should we be getting this article out there as much as possible, or will it only draw more attention to the Dumond attacks against Gov. Huckabee? And what is the truth about Dumond's later crimes?


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christopher.wilkerson wrote:
This story is amazing!! I knew the Clintons were bad guys, but I had no idea that stuff like this was happening in our country. Should we be getting this article out there as much as possible, or will it only draw more attention to the Dumond attacks against Gov. Huckabee? And what is the truth about Dumond's later crimes?


We are talking about the clintons here. The worse kind of people in our country.
Filthy criminals.


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