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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:00 am 
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Several developments regarding the leaders of America and Israel: Growing anxiety about President Obama not clearly stating that he will veto a Palestinian bid for statehood. Also, in Israel, criticism of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for not stating clearly enough how he will counteract an expected war with the PLO forces and other enemies of Israel.

This from the news source Haaretz:

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U.S. Republicans urge Obama to veto Palestinian statehood bid at UN
Chair of House Foreign Affairs Committee Rep. Ros-Lehtinen introduces legislation aiming to cut off U.S. funds for any UN organization that embraces an upgrade to the Palestinians' diplomatic status.


President Barack Obama should say clearly and publicly the United States will use its veto on the U.N. Security Council to block any Palestinian bid to gain UN membership, a senior Republican lawmaker said on Wednesday.

Representative Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, a conservative who chairs the House Foreign Affairs Committee, made the call as Obama's administration made diplomatic moves to try to head off a Palestinian plan to gain statehood recognition at the UN General Assembly session that begins on Sept. 19.


Washington fears the Palestinians' statehood initiative at the United Nations could further snarl flagging U.S. efforts to revive Middle East peace talks, which broke down last year following a dispute over Jewish settlements.

"I think President Obama should have come out clearly and said we will veto this," Ros-Lehtinen told Reuters in a telephone interview shortly after flying from Miami to Washington on Wednesday.

U.S. Middle East peace envoy David Hale met Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas on Wednesday, but Palestinian leaders' irritation appeared to be rising over what they saw as American efforts to halt the statehood bid at the U.N.

Ros-Lehtinen said she felt that the Obama administration's diplomatic "full court press" was coming too late. She urged the Democratic president to spell out the U.S. veto intention more clearly himself instead of relying on what she called "diplomatic nice speak."
U.S. officials have said Washington views the Palestinian push for statehood recognition at the UN as "misguided."

Anticipating a U.S. veto against full Palestinian UN membership, Palestinian officials have said they could also present a General Assembly resolution that would upgrade their standing from an "entity" to a "non-member state" - the status held by the Vatican. This would require 129 votes.

To counter that, Ros-Lehtinen last week introduced legislation aiming to cut off U.S. funds for any UN organization that embraces an upgrade to the Palestinians' diplomatic status. The United States is the biggest contributor to the U.N. budget, paying about 22 percent of its core budget and 25 percent of its peacekeeping costs.

While acknowledging the Palestinians could obtain a majority of votes needed in the UN General Assembly for a status upgrade, Ros-Lehtinen insisted the United States oppose this, saying it was better to be "right than in the majority."

The Palestinians are seeking an independent state in the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem - territories occupied by Israel in the 1967 Middle East war.

The last round of peace talks, which lasted only a few weeks, broke down last October over the issue of Jewish settlement expansion in the West Bank and East Jerusalem.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-d ... n-1.383222

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:16 am 
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Likewise, criticism of PM Netanyahu for not being firm enough...

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Op-Ed by Danny Dayan, head of Council of Judea and Samaria:

A Golden Opportunity Missed:

Israel has done some good political preparation for September (the PM made successful trips to several European countries, for example) as well as security planning (the IDF is rehearsing various scenarios), but the most crucial steps have not been taken: steps that would frighten the Arabs into giving up their plan.

And most telling of all: Israel has not been wise enough to turn the crisis into an opportunity, although it has the ability to do so.

Deterrent-wise, Israel has done nothing, except for saying a few hollow words that no one took seriously. Israel has an abundance of political leverage, as well as economic, defense, and settlement options that could stop the Arabs in their tracks.

Not only has none of them been used, the opposite is true: the policy in the defense establishment is that this is the time to strengthen the PA financially so that it will keep on coordinating security with us.

“This is not the way to build a wall”, said a sportscaster once, coining a new phrase, as Israel’s soccer team absorbed a rival team’s goal. This is not the way to prevent a unilateral Arab offensive against Israel, we have to tell our government, hoping it will come to its senses and act differently.

The biggest shame of all is not turning this into a golden opportunity. The unilateral Arab step in the UN voids all former agreements with Israel.

It has to be responded to with a strong, obvious unilateral move of our own: asserting Israeli sovereignty in Judea and Samaria, if not on its entirety, then on all the Jewish settlements and the open areas between them—what is known as Area C.

The Arabs forced Israel into a political war. In this war, just as in military wars, Israel must win and not accept a tie, nor a respectable “loss” (i.e. a few dozen countries who abstain or vote nay in the UN, our Foreign Ministry’s current aspiration).

Only asserting Israeli sovereignty on large portions of our homeland would achieve a victory. This is, therefore, a crisis that has been badly handled, a great opportunity that has been missed.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Artic ... mh6U9SZs-0

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Several news sources are saying that Israel may soon have to take out Iran's nuclear facility if the US and international pressure are unsuccessful in stopping Amahdinejad's determined effort to produce a nuclear weapon. He has threatened to use it to wipe Israel off the map.

Now, in the following news story, Former Vice President Dick Cheney sits down with Newsmax magazine's Ronald Kessler and hears the same.

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Sunday, 11 Sep 2011 04:09 PM
By Ronald Kessler
http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/chen ... ode=D068-1

Former Vice President Dick Cheney sat down with Newsmax Chief Washington correspondent Ronald Kessler for this powerful interview where the two discussed terrorism's threat to America, Israel, the Obama administration's policies and Cheney's new memoir.


Israel will attack Iran’s nuclear facilities if necessary to prevent it from developing a nuclear weapon, former Vice President Dick Cheney tells Newsmax TV in an exclusive interview.

“I think they would,” Cheney said when asked about the possibility. “I think Iran represents an existential threat, and they'll do whatever they have to do to guarantee their survival and their security.”

When asked if his opinion was based on discussions with Israeli leaders, Cheney responded, “I can’t attribute it to any one particular Israeli leader. I wouldn’t want to do that.” But he said, “I’ve had a number of conversations with a lot of Israeli officials, and I think they correctly perceive Iran as a basic threat.”

The book "In My Time: A Personal and Political Memoir," will hit the New York Times non-fiction hardcover bestseller list next Sunday in the No. 1 position.

Read more on Newsmax.com: Cheney to Newsmax: Israel Will Attack a 'Nuclear' Iran

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Will he or won't he? President Obama sounds quite firm about vetoing the Palestinian statehood vote if and when it comes to the UN Security Council. It is not perfectly clear whether he would veto the vote in the General Assembly. And Abbas of the PLO is upset because Obama's speech this spring seemed to indicate that he wanted to create a Palestinian state and take the land from Israel (not Jordan).

Here is a very informative article at Ynet:

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Palestinian statehood campaign officially launched as Ramallah sends UN chief letter urging him to 'exert all possible efforts towards achievement of Palestinians' just demands.' Washington says will exercise veto power. PLO official: UN bid focuses on Palestinian rights, not US relations

by Yitzhak Benhorin
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 55,00.html


Washington – The Obama administration announced on Thursday that it would exercise its veto power in the UN Security Council to nix any resolution recognizing Palestinian statehood.

"As we have said before, we continue to strongly oppose efforts to address these issues at the United Nations and have made that clear in our discussions with both sides," a Washington source told Ynet.

"The President has also made clear that initiatives through the UN will not bring about the two-state solution and enduring peace, which both the parties and the US seek. There is no substitute for serious and substantive negotiations between the parties, and that remains our focus."

The sentiment was also echoed by senior State Department official Wendy Sherman, who is slated to become the undersecretary of state for policy – the department's third-ranking position. "If any such resolution were put in front of the Security Council, then we would veto it," she said, according to the JTA.

Sherman said that the threat of the Palestinians pursuing a symbolic, yet politically potent General Assembly vote, still loomed, adding that the United States was still working to get the parties back to the table for talks.

"The General Assembly is still of concern, and so there is very urgent work going on to try to see if there's not another way forward," she said.

Yasser Abd Rabbo, secretary-general of the PLO's Executive Committee commented on Washington's announcement, saying that the Palestinian campaign focuses on the Palestinian people's rights, and not the PA's relations with the United States.

Abd Rabbo added that the bid and the resumption of the Israeli-Palestinian peace process were not mutually exclusive, but rather complementary: "We are serious about the negotiations, nut they must be backed by an international stance which demands earnest and will have no room for any exploitation when it comes to the settlements."

Earlier Thursday, the Palestinians officially launched their campaign to join the United Nations as a full member state, saying they would stage a series of peaceful events in the run-up to the annual gathering of the UN General Assembly later this month.

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The letter was handed over by Latifa Abu Hmeid. Officials said Abu Hmeid was selected to deliver the document because her personal story reflects the plight of the Palestinians.

The Palestinians have decided to turn to the UN to recognize their independence after two decades of unsuccessful peace efforts with Israel. The latest round of talks broke down a year ago.

While any UN vote will be largely symbolic, the Palestinians believe a strong international endorsement will boost their position and put pressure on Israel should negotiations resume. Israel has been lobbying the international community to oppose the vote, saying peace can only be achieved through negotiations.

The letter says the campaign will include a series of peaceful events "in various international cities and capitals" leading up to the Sept. 21 opening of the General Assembly. Two days later, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas will address the gathering in New York and ask for admission to the United Nations.

It remains unclear whether the Palestinians will turn to the Security Council or the General Assembly.

The Council needs nine votes out of 15 and no veto from any of its permanent members to pass a decision. However, the United States, which opposes the Palestinian bid, is expected to veto any request in the Council.

The Palestinians could then seek admission as a "nonmember state" of the General Assembly – a status similar to that held by the Vatican.

Approval in the Assembly, which is dominated by developing nations sympathetic to the Palestinians, is assured. But the vote would not be legally binding. The Palestinians say they will continue their campaign until they gain full UN membership.

Although the Palestinians say their campaign will be peaceful, Israeli military officials fear that mass demonstrations in the West Bank could turn violent.

Security forces have been preparing for the possibility of violence. conducting exercises and stockpiling what they say is "non-lethal" riot-control equipment like tear gas, water cannons and stun grenades.

-Elior Levy, AP and Reuters contributed to this report

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:26 am 
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He can't veto it in the General Assembly. The Security council is the only part of the UN that really matters. Most of the power is vested there. We only get one vote on the floor of the General Assembly, same as every other country (I'm taking a model UN class this year so I'm learning a bit about how it doesn't work.)

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Chadballer wrote:
He can't veto it in the General Assembly. The Security council is the only part of the UN that really matters. Most of the power is vested there. We only get one vote on the floor of the General Assembly, same as every other country (I'm taking a model UN class this year so I'm learning a bit about how it doesn't work.)


Thank you, Chadballer, for pointing out my mistake. This is a learning process for me! I will try to find more information on the UN process and what Obama plans to do.

I am also trying to learn more about the Balfour Declaration, the British Mandate, and other history following World War I that led to nations promising the Jewish people a homeland but then hindering them in many ways from possessing it. (I have discovered that the original British Mandate would even have given the Jews land that is now Jordan!)

I am glad you are taking a UN class this year and can maybe help me out on the way it works. Not enough of us know what is going on in this world league of nations.

While it seems fair to hear from all the small, developing (or not-so-developing!) countries in the world in the UN, the danger is that the general session will definitely favor Palestinian statehood recognition. There are few true democracies (better, freedom-granting republics) in the world to side with Israel. This imbalance of general votes is unfair to Israel and threatens even our American sovereignty. The One World Order idea persists, and it is probably the largest long-term threat to freedom.

For now, it is good that Obama plans a veto in the Security Council. Perhaps he is listening to us and the overwhelming majority in the House who have voted to stand by Israel. Or at least he wants to be re-elected! Yet, it is hard to trust this administration and know which message our President will follow. Will he heed his own advice and plan, in which he endorsed the idea of giving to the terrorist leaders--PLO, Hamas, al-Fatah, and the Muslim Brotherhood--what they want? Or will he provide protection to the tiny nation of Israel against the plans of the Arab, Persian (Iran), and Islamic jihad world?

Giving the terrorists control in Israel would also be tragic for the Palestinian people. And it would destabilize the Middle East further. As the above article states, the General Assembly vote may be largely symbolic. But it is apparent in the Middle East that symbolism is powerful. "Arab Spring" ring a bell? It is interesting to look at the symbols displayed on the flags of all the terrorist groups. Most of them in some way promote jihad, with the crossed sabers that have been the symbols of the caliphate for centuries. And in the background of many of these flags you will find an image of the map of Israel, symbolizing terrorists' only ultimate goal--to destroy the Jews and take their land.

It takes a great deal of naivete to believe that terrorists are up to peaceful solutions.

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Illinois 8th District Congressman, Rep. Joe Walsh, has taken steps to protect and defend Israel in the event that the Palestinian Authority goes through with a plan to declare national statehood unilaterally (without agreement with Israel) when the United Nations session opens, September 20.

In a first in Congress, Walsh is asking for American support for Israeli Knesset's right to implement full sovereignty over their settlements in Judea and Samaria.

This quote is from Rep. Joe Walsh's website.

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Walsh Introduces Legislation to Defend Israel in Face of Upcoming U.N. Vote on Palestinian State
09/08/11




WASHINGTON– Today, Congressman Joe Walsh introduced a resolution supporting Israel’s right to annex Judea and Samaria in the event that the Palestinian Authority continues to press for unilateral U.N. recognition of Palestinian statehood. It anticipates the General Assembly vote on recognition of Palestinian statehood scheduled for September 20. The resolution coincides with a bill being introduced in the Israeli Knesset to terminate all obligations and agreements made between Israel and the Palestinian Authority and implement full Israeli sovereignty over the land in which Jewish communities of Judea and Samaria currently reside.

“The Palestinian Authority has repeatedly violated peace agreements and has even joined forces with the terrorist group Hamas. But the United States has continued to give aid to the Palestinians on the one condition that they continue to negotiate with Israel for peace. Now the Palestinians can’t even do that and have cut Israel completely out of the process by pushing for unilateral recognition of Palestinian statehood at the United Nations. This is the last straw. It is clear that the Palestinian Authority no longer has any interest in peace.”

“We must stand firmly by Israel because a strong and secure democracy in the Middle East is absolutely vital to American security. The Palestinian Authority has to negotiate directly with Israel. If it is going to continue to cut Israel out and violate its peace agreements, then the United States must support Israel’s efforts to defend its sovereignty and the security of its citizens.”

“A U.N. recognized Palestinian state would potentially put Israelis directly under the sovereignty of a group of people that have sworn the destruction of Israel and its people. This is unacceptable, and, in the absence of a negotiated peace agreement, Israel has the right to protect its citizens living in Judea and Samaria by annexing those territories.”

Congressman Walsh has introduced two other bills in defense of Israel during the 112th Congress. H.R. 1501 will withhold funding from the United Nations until it retracts the Goldstone Report, a 2009 report that accused Israel of war crimes. H.R. 2457, the Palestinian Accountability Act, will withhold funding from the Palestinian Authority until it stops inciting violence against Israel and recognizes Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish State; it will also withhold US funding to the United Nations if that body or any of its entities unilaterally recognize Palestinian statehood.

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Apparently, the veto will need to come before the General Assembly (in the Security Council) to prevent a Palestinian recognition vote for statehood apart from negotiations with Israel. This UN official seems to think US will veto.


Top UN official: U.S. veto would block vote on Palestinian statehood
President of UN General Assembly says at press conference no way a Palestinian state could become a member of the UN without a recommendation from the Security Council.

Published 27.05.11

By The Associated Press


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The president of the United Nations General Assembly said Friday there is no way that a Palestinian state could become a member of the United Nations without a recommendation from the Security Council.

Joseph Deiss told a news conference that if the United States or any other permanent council member used its veto, the General Assembly would not be able to vote on membership for Palestine.

The Palestinian UN Observer Mission had no immediate comment.

U.S. President Barack Obama said last weekend that no vote at the United Nations would ever create a Palestinian state, a strong indication that the U.S. would veto a resolution recommending Palestinian membership in the 192-nation world body.

Some legal experts say there may be ways to maneuver around that block. The question is whether any declaration the Palestinians can wrest from the General Assembly would be a largely symbolic gesture or would be strong enough to win them valuable legal leverage against Israel's occupation.

Asked if there was any other way for the Palestinians to achieve UN membership if a Security Council resolution is vetoed, Deiss replied: "No. No."


Some wonder if President Obama waited too long to make this position clear. Palestinian leaders seem determined to go forward with trying to get a vote this September.

One of the greatest dangers of this whole attempt and focus of the Muslim Brotherhood-brokered deal between Hamas and al-Fatah (PLO) leaders to declare a Palestinian state comes from raised expectations. Young Palestinian activists have been promised statehood. They are preparing for a takeover of Israeli settlements in September. So we can expect increased violent attacks, if not all-out war, against Israel.

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From the Presidential Prayer Watch, I have received this news about how the nations are turning against Israel. The Israeli embassy in Egypt has been attacked and Israel had to rescue its people there. Now, we hear that the relations with Turkey are deteriorating...

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Turkey Says it is Prepared for Military Confrontation with Israel

9/13/2011 11:29 AM

Amid a diplomatic assault from three directions that has Israel's foreign service reeling, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said that Turkey is prepared for a military confrontation with Israel should the diplomatic row between the two countries escalate.

In an interview Monday with an Egyptian newspaper, Mr. Erdogan said the "Turkish Navy is prepared for every scenario – even the worst one."

Israeli-Turkish ties have been nearly severed in recent weeks. That's not the only challenge. Over the weekend, angry protesters breached the Israeli embassy in Cairo, and there was rapid movement toward a Palestinian declaration of statehood when the United Nations meets later this month. The trio of challenges has put Israel at a tough diplomatic intersection.

Erdogan, who downgraded Israel's diplomatic mission to Turkey after Israel refused to apologize for its May 2010 raid on the Gaza flotilla that killed nine people, including eight Turks, would not speculate about Turkey's next move, according to Israeli news organization Ynet News.

"I don't want to put the cart before the horses," he said, "because any such plan is hinged upon Israel's response and its willingness to accept a just solution that will preserve Turkey's honor."

"What I can say is that we are committed to four things: Protecting the rights and honor of the Turkish people, stopping Israel from disregarding international treaties and customs, implementation of Turkish demands through international tribunals, and ending the blockade on Gaza." (Sources: Christian Science Monitor, YNet News)

As the Lord leads, please pray:

For improvement in the relationship between Israel and Turkey.
For the upcoming United Nations resolution that would give statehood to the Palestinians.

http://prayerwatch.presidentialprayerte ... sp?pw=1649


We know that in the Middle East culture, honor is one of the most highly touted qualities of character. So, this is dangerous. Please pray that Israel may find a way, both to not offend the honor of other nations, yet to protect themselves from the unfair attacks of enemies surrounding them.

Also, where is President Obama in this conflict? On which side? Please pray that he will heed God's call to help protect Israel. He could do a great deal to ease tensions by not taking the pro-Arab Spring position but by supporting our best ally in the Middle East, Israel. Talking with the enemies of the US and Israel has only served to heighten tensions in the Middle East and destabilize the area. Followers of the Muslim Brotherhood take this as a signal that the United States will do nothing to intervene with the threatened takeover of Israeli land by the terrorists.

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One of the trends that has been harmful to the cause of the Jews returning to a homeland in Israel has been liberalism.

I speak of both political liberalism but also of the leadership of the most liberal of Christian organizations--the National Council of Churches. This body of leaders is generally out of touch with most evangelicals, and even the American people, on such issues as gay marriage and abortion. But it also has had a tremendous effect upon the teaching of churches in how the Jews and the Holy Land are viewed. I know for a fact that there are sincere and godly Christian believers in some of the most liberal churches. Yet the internal leadership of the liberal movement has been part of the reason for less literal interpretations of Scripture in many areas, including the prophetic scriptures and promises regarding the Jews' return to the Holy Land.

The following article, written by Elwood McQuaid of Friends of Israel, is an interesting response to the National Council of Churches position that favors the Palestinians and ignores the right of the Jewish people to a homeland. NCC calls those of us who support the Jewish homeland "a dangerous movement."

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"'Christian Zionism' is a dangerous movement that distorts the teachings of the Church, fosters fear and hatred of Muslims and non-Western Christians, and has negative consequences for Middle East Peace."

Thus read the first line of a December 2008 news release from the National Council of Churches (NCC). So exercised is this liberal federation of mainline denominations, which claims to represent some 35 member communions, that a brochure titled Why We Should Be Concerned About Christian Zionism has been published by its Interfaith Relations Commission.

The brochure purports to define Christian Zionism both broadly and narrowly. The broad frame: Christian Zionists recognize and therefore endorse the national revival of the Jewish people and the modern State of Israel as a legitimate factor in the divine plan.

“More narrowly defined,” it reads, “Christian Zionism is an ideology grounded in beliefs which consider the State of Israel to be divinely ordained and scripturally determined with a central role in ushering in the end of history, where unconverted Jews and unbelievers (including Christians who are considered to be of questionable status) are judged by God’s wrath. It is the narrower form that causes concern.” Five concerns are listed:

• It is a movement with negative consequences for Middle East peace
• It fosters fear and hatred of Muslims and non-Western Christians
• It can lead to the dehumanization of Israelis and Palestinians
• It is not based on traditional teaching or doctrines of the church
• Evangelical Christians are concerned

In sum, evangelicals who endorse the existence of the modern State of Israel as biblically documented, internationally legal, and morally justified are, according to the NCC, the real troublemakers in the world of religion and, more specifically, Israel and the Middle East.

Few accusations by those who claim to be frontline seekers of peace and tranquility could be more slanderous or perverse. Furthermore, in addition to other gross inaccuracies in the brochure, there is this one: Christian Zionists “treat Israelis and Palestinians not as neighbors to be loved, but as pawns in a cosmic drama of divine vengeance and retribution. The conclusion of this drama involves the death of all non-Christians, including Jews, through apocalyptic warfare or divine judgment.”

No genuine Christian Zionist can justifiably be accused of “the dehumanization of Israelis and Palestin-ians.” The very hint of such an accusation is preposterous.

Sadly, the clarifying paragraphs of the brochure reveal the guts of an agenda based more on reactionary bigotry than scholarly research and legitimate observation. It is but one more example of an organization that has consistently endorsed, defended, and enabled the most radical elements in society while targeting those with whom it disagrees. Never mind the protestations about an inclusive, loving embrace for people of all faiths, stripes, or distinctions.

Mark D. Tooley, director of the United Methodist committee at the Institute on Religion and Democracy, put his finger on the problem. In an article titled “Christian Zionists: The Real Terrorists,” published in December in FrontPageMagazine.com, he wrote,

What actually frustrates the NCC is that pro-Israel sentiment in the U.S.—which includes but is far from restricted to evangelicals—has prevented the U.S. from forcing Israel into surrender and a disastrous settlement. A 2003 Pew poll showed that U.S. white evangelicals favored Israel over the Palestinians by 54 to 6 percent, compared to general American support, which tips toward Israel by a robust 41-to-13 percent. Mainline Protestants and Catholics favored Israel by two-to-one margins. More than 60 percent of evangelicals thought Israel would play a role in the Second Coming, along with 21 percent of Mainline Protestants and one quarter of Roman Catholics.

That Americans as a whole . . . are more partial to Israel than the Palestinian cause is informed not just by Israel’s role in the Bible but by modern history. Democratic Israel is seen as a miraculous regathering of an ancient people into a successful nation state. The Palestinians, who have never had a nation, often seem more enthusiastic about destroying their Jewish neighbors than creating a country of their own.

And what about the claim that Christian Zionists ignore or minimize the suffering of Palestinian Christians, believers in Iraq and Iran, and Muslims under such radical Islamist rules as Hamas, Hezbollah, and the horrifically murderous Sudanese Islamists? Take a look at who is praying, reaching out, rescuing, and speaking out for these beleaguered people. You’ll find that a large majority are Zionist Christians who understand what is going on and other believers, many in mainline churches, whose compassionate convictions are at odds with their leaders’ prejudices.

http://www.foi.org/dangerofchristianzionism

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Schedules and speakers are being put in place for the UN General Assembly. The Palestinian statehood debate apparently will be discussed.
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Whbee to Defend Israel in NY, Washington
MK Majallie Whbee (Kadima) is invited to the UN in New York and Washington, DC by U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon. He will defend Israel.
By Chana Ya'ar
First Publish: 9/15/2011, 1:41 PM


MK Majallie Whbee (Kadima) has been invited to participate in the 66th session of the United Nations General Assembly in New York, and to visit with U.S. government officials in Washington, D.C.

The invitation to Whbee was issued by U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon due to his position as deputy president of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Mediterranean (PAM).

Whbee will meet with senior U.N. and U.S. officials, and said he will attempt to sway them against supporting the PA bid for U.N. recognition as a new country and membership in its ranks. Earlier this year he managed to stop a EUROMED conference from approving a resolution backing the PA's unilateral bid for statehood.

The MK said he will use his rich political experience to defend Israel's position and explain the importance of the peace process.

He added that he will also take the opportunity to warn officials about the full implications of a unilateral declaration by the Palestinian Authority of a independent state.


Whbee was born in Israel in 1954 in the Druze village of Beit Jan. He served in the IDF, where he attained the rank of Lieutenant Colonel. He holds a Bachelors Degree in political science and the history of Islam and the Middle East from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and a Masters Degree in the History of the New Middle East from Haifa University.

The MK has served as a member of the Knesset since January 2003, when he was elected to the parliament as a member of the Likud faction. Whbee has served as deputy prime minsiter, deputy minister of education, culture and sport, and deputy minister of foreign affairs. He later helped found the Kadima party and was re-elected to the Knesset in 2006 under that banner.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/147929#.TnHqp95Zs-0

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So, they are going ahead. The PLO and Hamas leaders will seek unilateral statehood. This is the first step, before the UN Security Council, of which the USA is a member with right to veto.

I have heard that Russia and China would vote for Palestinian statehood, while Germany and several other European nations are not in favor.


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The Palestinian Authority says it will apply to the U.N. Security Council on Friday, Sept. 23, for statehood recognition and UN membership.

By Chana Ya'ar
First Publish: 9/15/2011, 3:09 PM


The Palestinian Authority has announced it will submit its application to the United Nations Security Council to appeal for recognition as a new country and attain acceptance in the body.

PA Foreign Minister Riad al-Malki announced Thursday that the entity plans to submit its bid for full U.N. membership with the Council on Friday, September 23. The announcement ended speculation that Abbas would consider alternate plans forwarded by various diplomats who had frantically tried to dissuade the PA from pursuing a unilateral course via the U.N.

Nevertheless, a parade of envoys from the United States, the European Union and the Quartet of Nations (comprised of the U.S., Russia, the EU and the U.N.) are still engaged in trying to persuade the PA to return to the negotiating table with Israel.

“We will see if any of them is carrying a credible offer that will allow us to look into it seriously,” al-Maliki told reporters in Ramallah. “Otherwise, on the 23rd at 12:30 p.m. [Abbas] will submit the application.”

Al-Malki's announcement confirmed a similar statement by a Fatah official Wednesday at a news conference in Ramallah.

“We are going to the United Nations, we are going to the Security Council,” said Dr. Mohammad Shtayyeh. “We are going to seek full membership based on [the] 1967 borders.” A report in Ha'aretz quoted Shtayyeh as saying that Damascus-based Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal had expressed support for the move. The report is questionable, however, given previous statements by Hamas officials who in recent days have made an effort to distance themselves from Ramallah's upcoming statehood bid at the U.N.

Earlier this week, PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas called on Arab countries worldwide to devote the date to supporting the Palestinian state.

In an interview on Egyptian national television, Abbas hinted that veto by the United States would prevent the PA from participating in various international institutions – including the International Criminal Court at The Hague. The PA has made every effort to use such institutions in lawfare attempts to attack the State of Israel.

The PA chairman is scheduled to address PA Arabs – at least in Judea and Samaria – on Friday, Sept. 16. It is not clear whether his broadcast will be aired in Gaza, which is controlled by the Hamas terrorist organization.


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Palestinian Authority Chairman Abbas is apparently finding himself in a difficult position from which he cannot withdraw and save face.

The process of claiming Palestinian statehood in the United Nations still is going forward. Pressure by the Muslim Brotherhood and activists in Palestine have raised expectations among the people.

Yet, in the United States, strong political pressure in Congress to support Israel is causing Obama to change his rhetoric. A veto by the US looks more promising. Americans favor Israel keeping her land by about two to one and considerably more among evangelical conservatives.

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Palestinian Authority chairman Mahmoud Abbas wants to "climb down from the tree" and restart talks with Israel, but can't due to widespread pressure, the Associated Press reported Thursday.

According to PA sources several senior PA officials are advising Abbas to forgo plans to seek a unilateral declaration of PA statehood at the UN in September due to opposition to the move from the United States.

However, the sources say the sense is that having announced his intentions to pursue the unilateral UN path, Abbas has "left himself with little room to maneuver and may proceed with the UN gambit simply to avoid a loss of credibility."

"We are trapped with September," one official told the AP. "We don't know what to do after that."

The PA officials, who spoke to AP on condition of anonymity, said several top PA advisers were having second thoughts about the unilateralist track at the UN.

Among them are PLO second-in-command Yasser Abed Rabbo, PA chief negotiator Saeb Erekat; and former PA representative to the UN Nasser Al-Qidwa.

Qidwa noted the limits of Abbas's unilateral UN track earlier this week, saying the PA should still rally behind statehood efforts at the UN, "but we should distinguish between getting support and getting recognition."

"We cannot get recognition simply because the US will veto it," the AP quoted Qidwa as saying.

Qidwa's comments suggest a growing realization that the unilateral UN track is problematic and promises an unclear conclusion that may not only change nothing, but may backfire and trigger a new wave of violence PA leaders cannot control.

Abbas attempt to step down from his self-created political precipice may be due to serious discussion in the US congress over cutting funding to the PA, which comes as the PA finds itself amidst another budget crisis. Abbas had previously said he would pursue the unilateral track irrespective of US objections - and even if US funds were cut.

Earlier this week, senior Israeli and PA negotiators traveled to Washington and held separate meetings with US officials to explore the possibility of restarting negotiations.

The meetings come as reports say that Hamas is considering leaving the business of politics and governance to Fatah saying its involvement therein has "weakened the resistance enterprise."
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I hope this visit goes better than the last one at the White House!

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Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and President Barack Obama are expected to meet as PA presents its statehood bid to the UN.

By Elad Benari, Canada
First Publish: 9/17/2011, 12:05 AM

President Barack Obama expects to meet Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu next week in New York, but no talks are so far planned for Obama and Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmud Abbas.

Ben Rhodes, a deputy national security advisor, told AFP on Friday that Obama expected to meet Netanyahu amid the PA’s bid for statehood recognition at the United Nations General Assembly next week, but no time has yet been set.

Rhodes told AFP, “The goal of the meeting is to determine what is the best way to get the parties back together.”

Obama has already said the United States will veto any attempt by the PA to seek statehood recognition in the Security Council and has described the bid as a “distraction” that will not result in a viable Palestinian state.

On Thursday, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said she saw a “growing recognition” among the “parties in the region” that it would be best for the PA to abandon their bid for UN membership.

Clinton said she did not want to set the odds of success for the U.S.-led diplomatic effort to convince the PA to drop the UN bid, but that she saw growing support.

But despite Clinton’s statements, Abbas on Friday confirmed that he will ask the United Nations Security Council next week to endorse his statehood bid.

“We are going to the United Nations to request our legitimate right, obtaining full membership for Palestine in this organization,” the PA leader said in a speech in Ramallah.

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I found this article in my files and thought it would be a great read for all of you this weekend!

Jeff Daube, a leader from Jerusalem of the Zionist Organization of America wrote this article that was posted nearly two years ago on Huck PAC. You might like to visit the site there and read the comments, too. There's a great picture of Jeff and his wife in Israel with Gov. Huckabee. Oh, how I wanted to visit Israel with the Huckabee tour! :wink: And some readers were so generous as to offer help.

http://www.huckpac.com/?Fuseaction=Blogs.View&Blog_id=2829

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Mideast Paradigm Viewed Through Midwest Lens
by Jeff Daube

As a veteran pro-Israel advocate on Capitol Hill from 1994 to 2007, and now a denizen of the Knesset in my current role directing the ZOA’s Israel office, I have met many a legislator on both sides of the Atlantic. More than a few could be said to speak and act for the sake of expedience rather than principle. There is also a different sort of leader, and I have encountered several, men and women guided more by big picture concerns and values than self-aggrandizement or political survival.

Recently I was privileged to spend a few very intense days with one such individual, Mike Huckabee, a singular yet unassuming statesman-leader with a courageous worldview. The former Governor of Arkansas and candidate for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination is now host of his own Fox TV and ABC radio shows. It has been suggested he will run for high office again in 2012.

Accompanying Governor Huckabee on a whirlwind trip sponsored by the Jerusalem Reclamation Project, I had an opportunity to observe the man up close and personal. To my delight, I found Huckabee to be someone who does not fit neatly into any of the pigeonholes that pundits like to deploy.

Radiating moral clarity, and referring often to the shared values and organic ties that bind the American and Israeli peoples, he is also far too pragmatic to be confused as a member of the currently discredited albeit misunderstood idealist school. In fact, I would be hard pressed to come up with another American leader who so ably synthesizes patriotism and core principles with a realistic apprehension of foreign policy matters, in this case those concerning Israel’s existential security needs.

Evincing deep understanding of the conditions of the Middle East, Huckabee spoke eloquently and reassuringly about the need to ensure Israel’s long-term viability. If the proposal to create a Palestinian state proved to be inimical to Israel’s security interests and her status as a Jewish and democratic state, then the Governor was prepared to say that alternatives should be explored.

Although Huckabee was emphatic about not looking to cause problems for the US administration, he nonetheless sounded an alarm regarding its flawed policy of ignoring the protracted history of Palestinian antagonism. Myriad examples have been cited, all relevant to this day, over the course of 16 years post-Oslo Accords: the PA’s flouting all of its principal commitments; convening conferences that explicitly justify violence; publishing maps showing a state called Palestine from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, with Israel obliterated; inciting hatred against Israeli citizens in the official media, mosques, schools and camps; lionizing mass murdering terrorists by naming streets, schools and sporting events after them; and countenancing a revolving door that frees terrorists almost as quickly as they are detained. And these are the “moderate” Palestinians!

As we traversed the communities of eastern Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria whose ethnic cleansing it has been said is necessary for “peace,” Huckabee repeatedly argued that a policy seeking to restrict Jewish habitation anywhere in the world is fundamentally immoral. This policy is all the more so unsupportable, he asserted, in the very place where the Jewish historical experience took root in antiquity, and Jews have had an ongoing presence throughout the millennia.

Huckabee parried reporters’ questions and jibes with the observation that a separation of peoples based on ethnicity or religion would never be tolerated in America. Furthermore, he emphasized, in a region as volatile as the Middle East, why would anyone believe that radical population transfers would contribute to a durable peace?

For me, a dual citizen of Israel and the US, it was refreshing to hear such frank discussion from an American leader about the moral and practical implications of arm-twisting Israel. And not only vis-à-vis the Palestinians but also with regard to Iran, with its perilous nuclear ambitions being used by President Obama as a pawn to exact one-sided concessions from Israel.

Israelis await each of the President’s pronouncements with bated breath. Only four percent believe he is supportive of Israel and with each new speech, the latest at the Israel-bashing UN of all places, concerns are continually justified. Huckabee, on the other hand, visits Israel frequently—this was his eleventh—and implies with his encouraging words that Israelis need not capitulate to pressure sure to undermine their interests. What a contrast.

Fact is, sympathetic and strong American support is still in abundance among US leadership and populace alike. Indeed it is because of this critical yet understated point that ZOA’s Israel office considers it a priority to plan meetings for US officials with key ministers, Knesset members and community leaders. We took the opportunity to do as much for Governor Huckabee, in this instance with Vice Prime Minister Moshe Ya’alon (Likud), Minister Yuli Edelstein (Likud), and Members of Knesset, Tzipi Hotovely (Likud), Danny Danon (Likud), David Rotem (Yisrael Beteinu), Ze’ev Elkin (Likud) and Michael Ben Ari (National Union), among others.

The tête-à-tête we arranged for Ya’alon and Huckabee in particular may have far-reaching import. These are two leaders who do not shrink from speaking truth to power, and both have much to say during this determinative period about failed policies and realistic alternatives.

The challenge now is to follow the example of the Ya’alons and Huckabees. The times demand adaptive thinking, an honest reassessment of the current paradigm with an eye toward its replacement. And the new paradigm should be based on accurate demographic projections; not the manufactured data of the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics, with its history of bias, distortion and propaganda.

Moreover, unfettered discussion of all the options necessarily must include the possibility of simply managing the conflict for the foreseeable future. Present realities being what they are, this is at least preferable to plunging recklessly towards the more dangerous scenario on the table.

Promoters of the two-state paradigm would have everyone believe “there is no alternative,” dictating a Faustian binary that is hardly reasonable and presumptive in the extreme: Either establish a Judenrein Palestinian state (no matter that it is bent on Israel’s destruction), or accept that Israel by default will become undemocratic and apartheid-like. We must not allow ourselves to be constrained by voguish, doctrinaire claims meant to reduce the debate to a single trajectory.

President Shimon Peres once said, “When you have two alternatives, the first thing you have to do is to look for the third that you didn't think about, that doesn't exist.” Peres’ ill-considered sponsorship of the disastrous Oslo process notwithstanding, he had the right idea. It’s about time we heard about those third way possibilities from more leaders on both sides of the ocean. Thank you, Governor Huckabee, for joining the conversation.

Jeff Daube is Director of the Israel Office of the Zionist Organization of America and looks forward to greeting Governor Huckabee on his Christian mission to Israel in February 2010.

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RUMORS of WARS

Meanwhile, back to 2011.

The above post was fun to read, with the positive things said about Governor Huckabee's influence in Israel in 2009. Just think how differently this whole Middle East conflict might have been had we had a pro-Israeli President Huckabee!

But because of our naive (or perhaps even anti-Israel) President, who gives more honor to Muslim radicals than he does to heads of state of our allies, we are in a heap of trouble. And Israel is facing violence unlike any they have experienced in many years. It could be a fight for the life of the state of Israel, and especially for the 500,000 Jews living in Judea and Samaria. Christians could also risk losing all the beautiful sites they love to visit in Jerusalem, Judea, and Samaria--all areas that many (like former President Jimmy Carter and nearly 130 nations of the world) want to see in the hands of terrorists who have destroyed other religious sites before.

Because the time is so short until September 20 (or 19 or 23?), I will try to give you-Boom, boom, boom!-lots of news to digest. It is confusing, too, because one report may say a vote for Palestinian statehood in September would be "largely symbolic," yet others paste a picture of Armageddon.

Regardless, Huckabee was right when he spoke this morning on Fox News (Fox and Friends). Obama may have done so much damage by hinting support for those pushing for a Palestinian state under terrorist control that nothing can undo the momentum. He accused the President of diminishing America's influence in the eyes of the world, through this appeasement. And even a veto at this point will not have as much power. The Muslim world has lost respect for the USA and see us as wimps. (My term, not Huckabee's!)

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by Chana Ya'ar
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The Palestinian Authority has announced it will submit its application to the United Nations Security Council to appeal for recognition as a new country and attain acceptance in the body.

PA Foreign Minister Riad al-Malki announced Thursday that the entity plans to submit its bid for full U.N. membership with the Council on Friday, September 23. The announcement ended speculation that Abbas would consider alternate plans forwarded by various diplomats who had frantically tried to dissuade the PA from pursuing a unilateral course via the U.N.

Nevertheless, a parade of envoys from the United States, the European Union and the Quartet of Nations (comprised of the U.S., Russia, the EU and the U.N.) are still engaged in trying to persuade the PA to return to the negotiating table with Israel.

"We will see if any of them is carrying a credible offer that will allow us to look into it seriously," al-Maliki told reporters in Ramallah. "Otherwise, on the 23rd at 12:30 p.m. [Abbas] will submit the application."

The United States, a permanent member of the Council, has already announced that it will exercise its veto to block the move. Read more.

A former head of Saudi Arabian intelligence and ex-ambassador to Washington, Turki al-Faisal said: ''The United States must support the Palestinian bid for statehood at the United Nations this month or risk losing the little credibility it has in the Arab world. If it does not, American influence will decline further, Israeli security will be undermined and Iran will be empowered, increasing the chances of another war in the region,'' Mr Faisal says.

''Moreover, Saudi Arabia would no longer be able to co-operate with America in the same way it historically has. With most of the Arab world in upheaval, the 'special relationship' between Saudi Arabia and the United States would increasingly be seen as toxic by the vast majority of Arabs and Muslims, who demand justice for the Palestinian people.'' He adds: ''Saudi leaders would be forced by domestic and regional pressures to adopt a far more independent and assertive foreign policy.''

''American support for Palestinian statehood is therefore crucial, and a veto will have profound negative consequences. In addition to causing substantial damage to American-Saudi relations and provoking uproar among Muslims worldwide, the United States would further undermine its relations with the Muslim world, empower Iran and threaten regional stability.''

- God says: "I am going to make Jerusalem a cup that sends all the surrounding peoples reeling. Judah will be besieged as well as Jerusalem. On that day, when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all the nations. All who try to move it will injure themselves. . . Then the clans of Judah will say in their hearts, 'The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the LORD Almighty is their God.' "On that day I will make the clans of Judah like a firepot in a woodpile, like a flaming torch among sheaves. They will consume all the surrounding peoples right and left, but Jerusalem will remain intact in her place." (Zechariah 12:2-6)

The Jerusalem Connection says: It appears God is setting the stage for the fulfillment of Zechariah's prophecy. Humanly speaking the Palestinians' unilateral attempt at acquiring statehood is a geopolitical train wreck waiting to happen. More to the point however, it is an act of blatant defiance against the God of Israel and his covenant promise for a homeland for the Jewish people. Hopefully it will serve as a wake up call causing us to recognize that we really don't have any friends in the Muslim world.

..."the government will be on His (Jesus') shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there will be no end."(Isaiah 9:6-7)
(Source for all above: The Jerusalem Connection)

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High-level talks continue to avert ‘train wreck’ at UN
By HERB KEINON AND KHALED ABU TOAMEH
09/15/2011 01:07

Ashton extends stay in region for more meetings; Netanyahu confers with Ross, Hale; Abbas tells Tantawi it’s "too late to backtrack."


Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu held late-night meetings Wednesday with US envoys Dennis Ross and David Hale, and a scheduled second one of the day with EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton, in an effort to head off what one diplomatic official termed a “diplomatic train wreck” at the UN.

The focus of last-minute diplomatic fury, according to the official, was to prevent a “one-sided anti-Israeli resolution from being adopted by the UN.”



None of the parties involved in the talks are being specific about what is being discussed, and it is not even clear whether the goal is to prevent the PA from going to the UN and asking for any type of statehood recognition, or whether the aim is to convince the Palestinians to bring to the UN a resolution that Israel could live with and that would form the basis for future negotiations.

Ashton, who on Tuesday met in Cairo with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, met Wednesday morning with Netanyahu, and then separately afterward with Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman and Defense Minister Ehud Barak.

Following those meetings she said that Israel asked her to extend her stay, and hold another meeting in the evening.

Diplomatic officials said Ashton presented a formula made up of three parts. The first part is that the Palestinian status at the UN would be upgraded from observer status to a nonmember UN state, similar to the status enjoyed by the Vatican.

The second would be a new Quartet statement that would form the basis of negotiations.

And the third element would be some kind of UN declaration that the Palestinian statehood issue would be dealt with in the future.

According to the officials, these elements could either be separated and be part of other formulas currently being discussed, or be kept together as some type of package deal.

Washington, meanwhile, is working hard to prevent the issue from coming to the UN Security Council, not wanting to be forced to use its veto, which US President Barack Obama has said the US would do.

If the last-minute efforts do not succeed, and the Palestinians do go to the UN seeking statehood recognition, the ramifications of the move would be “grave and difficult,” Lieberman said at a conference in the Negev on Wednesday.


[See JPost for more coverage]

He said that he hoped that “reason” would prevail and prevent the “grave and difficult ramifications.”

Lieberman, reflecting Israel’s policy of not revealing how it will respond to the Palestinian move, said this is not the time to give details of what Israel would do or to issue threats.

Nevertheless, he came out last month in favor of scrapping the Oslo accords if the PA went through with the move, and ending all cooperation with the PA.

Other ideas range from economic sanctions to annexing the large settlement blocs. The decision how to respond is expected to be determined both by what the Palestinians do at the UN, and the response on the ground in the territories and along Israel’s borders.

The PA, meanwhile, remained defiant on Wednesday in the face of mounting US and, to a different degree, EU pressure.

The PA said that it would be prepared to discuss American and European proposals for reviving the peace process only after it submits to the UN a request for full membership of a Palestinian state next week.

Abbas, who held talks in Cairo with Muhammad Tantawi, head of the Supreme Council of the Egyptian Armed Forces, reiterated his determination to go ahead with the statehood bid at the UN, a PA official said.

“It’s too late for us to backtrack,” the official quoted Abbas as saying.

Abbas reportedly told the Egyptian leader that the PA had no choice but to go to the UN because of Israel’s “refusal” to accept the pre-1967 lines as the basis for future peace talks with the Palestinians. Abbas added that Israel’s refusal to cease construction in the settlements and east Jerusalem was another reason why the PA was refusing to return to the negotiating table, the official said.

Abbas also discussed the statehood plan with Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who is currently visiting Egypt. Erdogan told Abbas that his country fully supports the statehood bid, according to the PA official.

Netanyahu’s inner cabinet of eight ministers met Wednesday and reportedly discussed the recent Turkish moves over the Mavi Marmara incident and Erdogan’s threats, but did not issue any statement after the meeting. One diplomatic official said Israel would continue “letting Erdogan rant,” but not respond in kind.

He said this policy was appreciated in Washington and other western capitals, and made Israel look – in comparison to Erdogan – like the “mature adult in this confrontation.”

On his way back to Ramallah from Cairo, Abbas stopped in Jordan, where he met with the Quartet envoy to the Middle East, Tony Blair, and discussed with him the statehood bid.

Blair advised Abbas to abandon the plan and agree to the resumption of peace talks with Israel – advice that was rejected by the PA president, a PA official said.

PA officials said they did not expect Ross and Hale to bring any new proposal that would change Abbas’s mind regarding the statehood bid.

Chief PLO negotiator Saeb Erekat complained that the US Administration was mobilizing all its efforts to foil the statehood initiative. He said the Americans were in daily contact with the PA leadership in an attempt to convince the Palestinians to resume peace talks with Israel unconditionally.

Erekat stressed that the PA was determined to go ahead with its plan despite US pressure and opposition from other parties.


What other country would be forced to give up its own land by the other nations of the world? What other country would be accused of violence when they try to defend themselves, and would be asked to take thousands of rocket attacks without retaliation? What other country would be expected to give its capital to the enemy without a battle, to appease them? And then to be called greedy if they do not want to abandon 60% of their land to terrorists that would surround them? Those who have vowed to kill "every Jew you see"?

This is why I say that the rise of anti-Semitism is reaching a level comparable to that of Hitler's Europe. God, please be their "strong tower."

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Please watch and pass this on...An excellent, informative video about the Durbin Conference on Racism, which is basically an attack against Jews.

http://www.thejerusalemconnection.us/blog/2011/09/13/video-understanding-un-bias-against-israel-2.html


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The United Nations has made the democratic State of Israel the target of incessant condemnation while neglecting its mandate in challenging the oppressive regimes around the world.

The following film clip uncovers the factors behind the UN’s bias against Israel. We encourage you to view the clip, forward to friends, and partner with us to counter the hypocrisy and expose the truth.

Join us September 21, 2011 in holding the United Nations accountable for its actions at a pro-Israel demonstration as the UN launches its third World Conference against Racism (Durban III). The event will take place opposite the UN Headquarters in Dag Hammershald Plaza, NYC at 11:00 AM. We hope to see you there.

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Please check out all six of the posts on this thread for today. This is a crucial time in history; events are rapidly changing.

Governor Huckabee had one of his best shows on FoxNews ever, tonight. I especially appreciated his attention to the subject of Israel. He takes a bold, pro-active stance, saying that Israel should be adding more settlements in Judea and Samaria, not giving any up! They cannot concede any more land or security positions, regardless of the threats of the bullies around or the opinion of the world. How I wish he were our President now! You can catch a replay of the Huckabee Show Sunday at 7 PM CST or 10 PM.

Sadly, there is much merit to the following Op-Ed from the Arutz 7 news source:

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Op-Ed: Judenrein State, Part I: Western Hypocrisy
Published: Thursday, September 15, 2011 5:51 PM

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Articles.aspx/10615#.TnVTYNSZs-0


Nothing illustrates the hypocrisy better than a comparison of their demand that Israel accept an Arab “right of return” with their ambition for a state that would be ethnically cleansed of all Jews.

Matthew M. Hausman is a trial attorney and writer who lives and works in Connecticut. A former journalist, Mr. Hausman continues to write on a variety of topics, including science, health and medicine, Jewish issues and foreign affairs, and has been a legal affairs columnist for a number of publications.
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Part I: Western Hypocrisy


In seeking to impose a Palestinian state on Israel, the Obama Administration, European Union, and western media have displayed a cynical contempt for history that is astounding in its breadth and scope.

Pressure is brought to bear solely on Israel, who is expected to sacrifice sovereignty and security in the name of an ideal that is premised on a repudiation of the Jews’ right to self-determination in their ancient homeland. The Palestinians are expected to concede nothing – not even their oft-stated goal of the phased destruction of Israel.

Nothing illustrates the hypocrisy better than a comparison of their demand that Israel accept an Arab “right of return” with their ambition for a state that would be ethnically cleansed of all Jews. Like the Nazis with whom the Mufti and other Arab leaders were so closely allied during the Second World War, they seek to create a Judenrein state as a springboard for the elimination of a Jewish presence in the Mideast.

Ironically, western "progressives" are enabling the process, even though it entails human rights violations that would certainly be illegal in liberal democracies.

The continuing support for the Palestinian cause by the United States and European Union – and their contribution of billions of dollars that fund anti-Semitic propaganda masquerading as school curriculum, line the pockets of the corrupt Abbas regime or end up in the coffers of Hamas – would indicate an abdication of reason if the true goal were to achieve a lasting, substantive peace.

However, such behavior is not incongruous if the real purpose is political realignment with the Arab-Muslim world at the expense of Israel’s integrity as a democratic, Jewish nation. Although Obama and the EU claim only to support the rights of the Palestinians as an indigenous people, they have adopted the cause by uncritically promoting a revisionist narrative that is built on a denial of Jewish history.

However, the Jews’ rights as an indigenous people were recognized historically and under international law long before the term “Palestinian” was ever used to refer to an Arab population that accreted largely through immigration during the sunset years of the Ottoman Empire. The Jewish people originated in ancient Israel; the Palestinians did not.

The Arab-Muslim world’s true intentions regarding peace with Israel should be apparent from its centuries-long oppression and subjugation of Jews in Arab lands and its stated refusal to recognize Israel as a Jewish nation. The two-state solution is proffered as a ruse for the destabilization of Israel, and western apologists are complicit in the charade by their refusal to insist on Arab recognition of Jewish historical rights, and by their failure to condemn the Palestinian goal of state building through ethnic cleansing.


The Jews’ rights as an indigenous people were recognized historically and under international law long before the term “Palestinian” was ever used.

Whereas any perceived attempt by Israel to transfer Arab populations would certainly inspire international condemnation, the Palestinians’ open and notorious aim of expelling Jews from historically Jewish lands – lands that were never part of any sovereign Arab nation – is met with conspicuous silence or tacit approval. Indeed,

President Obama’s demand last year for a building freeze in Jerusalem was a blatant attempt to coerce Israel to implement apartheid-like measures against her own citizens in order to limit the Jewish population of her capital.

Jewish habitation in Judea, Samaria, and Israel proper, including Jerusalem, was a fact from antiquity into modern times – until Jordan conquered the territories and dispossessed their Jewish inhabitants during Israel’s War of Independence.

When Jordan (then known as Transjordan) conquered Judea and Samaria in 1948, it expelled the Jews living there, collectively dubbed these territories the “West Bank,” and annexed them in violation of international law.

Israel’s subsequent acquisition of these lands in 1967 in truth effectuated their liberation from foreign occupation; and renewed Jewish habitation thereafter constituted nothing more than repatriation.

Israel’s liberation and administration of Judea and Samaria were perfectly legitimate under prevailing standards of international law, despite Palestinian claims to the contrary. In fact, it is Palestinian land-claims that are dubious, based as they are on Jordan’s transfer of its negotiating “rights” over these territories to the Palestinian Authority as part of the Oslo process. Because Jordan seized these lands illegally, however, it never possessed lawful title in the first place, and accordingly had no legitimate rights to convey to the PA.

In consideration of these facts, it is reasonable to question why Israel should even entertain the notion of a two-state solution, particularly as it requires her to discount the indigenous heritage of her own people and surrender ancestral lands to those who unappologetically call for her destruction.

One must also question the wisdom of negotiating with the PA, which could easily be displaced by Hamas through open revolt or by an Islamist-influenced election such as occurred in Gaza.

This is a particular concern in view of the political upheavals currently sweeping across the Arab world, where popular unrest has reinforced the legitimacy of military juntas and strengthened the political profile of Islamist groups such as the Muslim Brotherhood.

Also read Part II: Alternative Solutions.

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