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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:55 am 
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Here goes - is anyone surprised by Reid's choices? (Gag warning - he touts his picks as being "bipartisan" :roll: )

Still, I was expecting the Dems to go with their fringiest members - what will be most telling for conservatives, IMO, is who the GOP appoints. I'm thinking Coburn will be one & hoping that Ryan will be another. Anyone else care to prognosticate?

(As an aside, I must say that I find Reince Priebus to be a breath of fresh air after his predecessor & esp considering the current DNC chair who makes Howard Dean look not only rational & coherent, but moderate)

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Reid Taps Sen. Murray To Co-Chair Debt Committee
Panel Of 12 Lawmakers To Be Created

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POSTED: Tuesday, August 9, 2011
UPDATED: 8:54 pm CDT August 9, 2011

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, said Tuesday that he would appoint Sen. Patty Murray, Sen. Max Baucus of Montana and Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts to the congressional "super committee," charged with crafting a plan to cut the country's deficit.

Murray, from Washington state, was tapped to co-chair the committee, Reid said in a statement.

"As the events of the past week have made clear, the world is watching the work of this committee. I am confident that Senators Murray, Baucus and Kerry will bring the thoughtfulness, bipartisanship and commitment to a balanced approach that will produce the best outcome for the American people," he said.

Under the debt ceiling deal passed by Congress and signed by President Barack Obama last week, a panel of 12 legislators -- six Democrats and six Republicans, equally divided between the House and Senate -- will be created to try to work out $1.5 trillion in deficit reduction after an initial round of more than $900 billion in spending cuts.

If the committee fails to reach agreement or Congress fails to pass whatever package it recommends, a trigger mechanism will enact further across-the-board cuts in government spending, including for the military.

In a joint statement issued soon after their appointments, Sens. Murray, Baucus and Kerry said that Americans want the committee to operate without "the red hot partisanship and brinkmanship of the last months."

"This is not going to be easy. Our challenge is to find common ground without damaging anyone's principles. We believe we can get there. This Committee was designed to require bipartisanship, and we are going to work hard with our Republican colleagues to attain it," they said.

In addition to Reid, other top congressional leaders -- Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, House Speaker John Boehner and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi -- each get to appoint three members of Congress to serve on the powerful 12-person panel.

A Republican aide said Tuesday that Boehner, who will appoint the other committee co-chair, has "not yet" made his picks.

In a conference call with House Republicans earlier, Boehner said that he plans to make his decision "in the coming days," according to a participant on that call.
Another GOP aide said McConnell would make no announcement Tuesday on his appointments. Similarly, Pelosi has not yet said who she will select.

Congressional leaders have until August 16 to appoint members to the congressional committee, which is required to complete its work by November 23. Congress then has until December 23 to vote on the proposal, with no amendments permitted.

A simple majority on the panel -- seven of 12 members -- is needed to approve whatever package it comes up with, meaning that it will take a lone member of either party to push something through by voting with the other side. The committee's proposal would then need a simple majority in each chamber of Congress to make it to Obama's desk.

Late Tuesday, Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus slammed Reid's choice of Murray and asked the Senate leader to withdraw her appointment.

"Harry Reid's appointment of Patty Murray to Co-Chair the Select Committee on Deficit Reduction is absolute proof that Democrats are not serious about deficit reduction. As Chair of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, Murray is the Senate Democrats' fundraiser-in-chief. The Select Committee is no place for someone whose top priority is fundraising and politics," he said in a statement.

CNN's Dan Lothian contributed to this report.
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 Post subject: Re: Debt Super Committee
PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:13 am 
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LOL, what a joke. Here is a debt committee for you:

The Donald, Buffet, Me, Jimmy McMillan, Nicki Haley, and of course the Huckster. Can I get a 2nd?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:32 pm 
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Boehner names GOP members: Rep. Jeb Hensarling of Texas (Co-chair), Reps. Dave Camp and Fred Upton, both of Michigan.


http://news.yahoo.com/boehner-names-gop-members-super-debt-panel-152534432.html

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 Post subject: Re: Debt Super Committee
PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:29 pm 
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Hensarling and Ryan are buddy buddy.

My guess for Sen R's: Cornyn, Sessions, Coburn

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 Post subject: Re: Debt Super Committee
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Where do Boehner's picks fit on the political spectrum?
Is Hensarling pretty much in lockstep with Ryan fiscally?

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Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has named Sens. Jon Kyl of Arizona, Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania and Rob Portman of Ohio to the committee.


How about that? McConnell named Toomey - and isn't Portman also very conservative? I am surprised, but this seems like a good sign. Trying to remember which way Kyl leans...


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 Post subject: Re: Debt Super Committee
PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:22 pm 
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QuoVadisAnima wrote:
Where do Boehner's picks fit on the political spectrum?
Is Hensarling pretty much in lockstep with Ryan fiscally?

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Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has named Sens. Jon Kyl of Arizona, Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania and Rob Portman of Ohio to the committee.


How about that? McConnell named Toomey - and isn't Portman also very conservative? I am surprised, but this seems like a good sign. Trying to remember which way Kyl leans...


Yes, Hensarling is pretty much like Ryan fiscally so far as I can tell. I don't know about the Michiganders.

I'm happy with McConnell's picks. Portman is a very sound guy, understands the budget: he was Director of OMB under Bush. That will give folks pause, but remember he was answering to the higher ups in that capacity.

Kyl is a fairminded man, I'm sorry he won't be running for re-election (if I remember correctly).

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 Post subject: Re: Debt Super Committee
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Here's FRC's take on the choices
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Super Committee Meets Its Kryptonite

Congress may not be in session, but its leadership is still making plenty of headlines. Earlier today, the House and Senate unveiled their choices for nine of the 12-member Super Committee. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (R-Nev.) was first to the plate, appointing Sens. Patty Murray (D-Wash.), Max Baucus (D-Mont.) and John Kerry (D-Mass.) to the new Committee, which will have until November 23 to slash the deficit by another $1.2 trillion. According to National Taxpayer Union's BillTally system, which puts a dollar figure to every piece of legislation, Sen. Murray, the 31st largest spender in the Senate, offered up $162 billion in new spending in the last Congress and could only find $148 million in government spending to cut. Senator Baucus, the 48th biggest spender in the chamber, asked for $66 billion in new spending and could only find $8 million to cut. Last--but by no means least--Sen. Kerry, the 21st biggest spender in the Senate, offered up $234 billion in new requests and only $1 billion in cuts.

But Democrats weren't the only ones picking teams today. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) also revealed his line-up, naming Senators Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.), Pat Toomey (R-Penn.) and Rob Portman (R-Ohio). In the 111th Congress Senator Kyl called for $31 billion in new spending and $94 billion in new cuts to spending. While new to the Senate, Senator Portman had a big spending agenda in the House during the 108th Congress, calling for $13 billion in new spending and only $890 million in spending cuts. Fellow Republican freshmen Senator Pat Toomey, while not a social conservative, campaigned on being a fiscal one.

Unfortunately, his BillyTally Report from the 108th Congress doesn't bear that out. Back then, Rep. Toomey advocated for $47 billion in new spending and only $10 billion in spending cuts. On the House side Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) tapped Dave Camp (R-Mich.), Fred Upton (R-Mich.), and Jeb Hensarling (R-Texas) as the House's GOP members. Rep. Camp called for $22 billion in new spending in the 111th Congress while advocating for $92 billion in spending cuts. Fellow Michigander Rep. Upton called for $24 billion in new spending and $50 billion in spending cuts. Rep. Hensarling has the second best BillTally numbers of the whole House of Representatives. In the 111th Congress he only introduced $2 billion in new spending, while calling for $305 billion in spending cuts.

Boehner's choices would seem to indicate that he is approaching this seriously.

Of particular interest to Huckabee supporters, to say the least, is the fact that Mr. CFG Toomey has one of the least impressive fiscal records of the group.

Here's Fox's take on the picks thus far (most informative coverage so far, IMO)
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Super Debt Committee Takes Shape As Republicans Appoint Their Six

Republican leaders in Congress on Wednesday announced their six appointments to the 12-member super committee charged with finding at least $1.2 trillion in debt reduction but facing low expectations for success in an increasingly mired political environment.

House Speaker John Boehner chose House Republican Conference Chairman Jeb Hensarling of Texas, House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp of Michigan and House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Fred Upton of Michigan.

Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell chose Sens. Jon Kyl of Arizona, Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania and Rob Portman of Ohio to represent the Senate GOP.

The announcements come one day after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid appointed his three picks -- Sens. Patty Murray of Washington, Max Baucus of Montana and John Kerry of Massachusetts. House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi has until Aug. 16 to choose her three selections of House Democrats to fill out the committee.

Speculation has been swirling around which lawmakers would get a seat on the committee ever since Congress reached a last-minute deal last week to raise the nation's $14.3 trillion debt cap in exchange for at least $2.1 trillion in spending cuts.

Boehner said his picks for the committee "are proven leaders who have earned the trust and confidence of their colleagues and constituents."

"They understand the gravity of our debt crisis and I appreciate their willingness to serve on this panel," he said.

Even before the selections were made, concerns arose that both sides will deadlock because Democrats are insisting on tax increases for higher income Americans, while Republicans want to cut into the government's massive entitlement programs.

Another concern raised was that some members of the group were too partisan to come up with a solution.

"There is no doubt Mitch McConnell and John Boehner will appoint members who will draw the line on no new revenues, and instead zero their aim on big cuts to Medicare and Social Security, using the deficit to change our fundamental values," read a petition circulated by Progressives United, a group led by former Wisconsin Democratic Sen. Russ Feingold. "Democratic appointees must oppose all cuts to Social Security and Medicare and demand that corporations and the wealthy finally sacrifice like everyone else. No ifs, ands, or buts."

Just as expected, after the announcements, not all were pleased. Reince Priebus, chairman of the Republican National Committee, called on Reid to withdraw the appointment of Murray, co-chair of the committee, because she is head of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, the fundraising group tasked with getting Senate Democrats elected.

Murray's selection is "absolute proof that Democrats are not serious about deficit reduction," Priebus. "The select committee is no place for someone whose top priority is fundraising and politics."

Campaign watchdog Public Campaign also gave a thumbs-down to the Murray pick. Nick Nyhart, president of the group, said Murray should immediately step down as DSCC chairwoman if she accepts the appointment.

"Sen. Patty Murray may be a fine senator, but putting Senate Democrats' leading fundraiser in charge of a committee that will see a lobbying push like never before sends the wrong message to the American people," he said.

"Instead of focusing solely on finding a balanced approach to deficit reduction, she will also be focused on raising money from the same interests hoping to influence the committee," he said.

But Reid expressed confidence in Murray, saying her "years of experience on the Senate budget and appropriations committee have given her a depth of knowledge on budget issues, and demonstrated her ability to work across party lines."

White House spokesman Jay Carney added that criticism of Murray was unfounded.

"These are small or political issues. ... And I think it's just silly criticism," Carney said Wednesday.

"The Senate minority leader who is appointing Republican senators to this committee said quite explicitly that his No. 1 objective in office was to have the president of the United States defeated in 2012. ... But you know what, that's OK because we know we can put aside a lot of the partisan rhetoric and focus on what needs to get done."

Of the members chosen, three -- Hensarling, Camp and Bowles -- served on President Obama's deficit reduction panel. That 18-member panel served as a precursor to the select committee, but its recommendations were never acted on since a supermajority of the group couldn't agree to all the debt reduction prescriptions.

Also being received as palatable so far are Kerry, Kyl, the No. 2 Republican in the Senate, and Portman, a freshman and the former budget director under President George W. Bush, who was seen as an obvious pick because of his topical knowledge.

But aside from Murray, one name to stir the opposite side is Toomey, another freshman and former head of the conservative Club for Growth. Toomey's selection thrilled his former organization.

"Senator Toomey is a staunch advocate for limited government and he understands that prosperity comes from economic freedom. Conservatives should be excited that someone of Senator Toomey's caliber will be at the center of the debate over how to restore America," said Club for Growth President Chris Chocola.

Surprisingly not on the list is Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan, chairman of the House Budget Committee. His budget plan to overhaul entitlement programs is the blueprint for Republicans though it angered many Democrats. Ryan said he asked Boehner not to consider him for the committee because of his budget duties.

The committee is expected to come up with at least $1.2 trillion in cuts to be decided by Nov. 23, with both chambers of Congress voting up-or-down deal by Dec. 23. No amendments are allowed and the White House has no representative in the talks. If the committee cannot reach an agreement, across-the-board reductions to federal spending will be triggered, taking big chunks out of defense spending and payments to Medicare providers.


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 Post subject: Re: Debt Super Committee
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:31 am 
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Now the final choices are in & the Committee is formed. Anyone surprised that Pelosi chose from among her pets? This is not going to be pretty. Will it be effective?
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Pelosi Names Clyburn, Becerra and Van Hollen to Super Committee

Published August 11, 2011 | FoxNews.com

House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi named Reps. James Clyburn, Xavier Becerra and Chris Van Hollen to the congressional debt reduction committee created to find $1.2 trillion in budget cuts to go along with a rise in the debt ceiling.

Pelosi's announcement rounds out the 12-member team of lawmakers who are expected to put everything on the table to come up with the tricky Washington talent of finding budget cuts that allow more spending.

Pelosi's choice include some of the most political and highest ranking members in the House Democratic Caucus. Each has experience in budget, appropriations and tax-writing.

Clyburn of South Carolina is the No. 3 in the Democratic leadership as assistant Democratic leader and previously served on the appropriations committee. Becerra of California is the Democratic caucus vice chair and was a member of President Obama's deficit reduction panel. Van Hollen of Maryland is the Budget Committee ranking member and the former head of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

"The thrust of the committee must be to grow an American prosperity enjoyed by all Americans," Pelosi said in a statement. "We must achieve a 'grand bargain' that reduces the deficit by addressing our entire budget, while strengthening Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. Our entire caucus will work closely with these three appointees toward this goal, which is the goal of the American people.

The three will join talks that are set to begin when Congress returns from its August break. The group will be working on a tight deadline as it has until Nov. 23 to come up with recommendations that both chambers of Congress can vote on before the end of the year.

Rep. Dave Camp, R-Mich., chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee who was selected by Speaker John Boehner to be on the panel, told Reuters Thursday that boosting the sluggish U.S. economy and creating jobs are top priorities. He said he's not going to rule anything in or out until the group rules on it.

"I am willing to discuss all issues that might help us reduce our short and long-term debt and grow our economy," Camp said.


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