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Author:  FirstCoastTerp [ Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Frances Rice on local FL TV - Debunking Republican Racism

I received an email from the National Black Republican Association with links to these three videos.

Part 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YdEmn7IYOg



Part 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2l8NT3XfZE



Part 3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdNbO4RCj0I

Author:  WhatsNotToLike? [ Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Frances Rice on local FL TV - Debunking Republican Racism

Wow! This is long, but it's worth watching. I hope she's right about her history. I'd love to hear what some others on here think - esp our historians So. Doc., TVV, and the others who know so much more than I. I'm afraid I wasn't interested in politics at all for the first 40 years of my life, so even though many of these events happened in my lifetime, I just wasn't paying much attention. (Being educated at state universities didn't help either - regardless of what anyone says, the instructors are there to indoctrinate, and mine were classically liberal).

Author:  VertiCon [ Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Frances Rice on local FL TV - Debunking Republican Racism

WhatsNotToLike? wrote:
(Being educated at state universities didn't help either - regardless of what anyone says, the instructors are there to indoctrinate, and mine were classically liberal).


I think typically liberal might be a better way to put it.

Classical liberalism, as a technical expression, usually refers to those who write in the enlightenment political theory of John Locke -- i.e. John Stuart Mill, Alexis De Toqueville, Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson/James Madison.

When Americans use the term "liberal", nowadays, (in a political sense) they generally mean those who favor government intervention into the marketplace after the manner of FDR. And, that is a whole different animal that Jeffersonian liberalism.

Jeffersonian liberalism is something like our present day libertarians. Whereas, the folks we call liberals are more like European Social Democrats -- a kind of socialism-lite.

Author:  VertiCon [ Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Frances Rice on local FL TV - Debunking Republican Racism

I'd like to see Francis Rice on "Huckabee".

My fear is Mike is to intent on charming liberal blacks. I hope I'm wrong.

It was good that he had Michael Steele on, but he had to. I'd like to see J.C. Watts, and other Black conservatives, even having Condi Rice come on would be interesting, especially if some new foreign crisis develops.

Rev. Clenard Childress would be another good guest, as would Ken Blackwell, and Star Parker.

Author:  WhatsNotToLike? [ Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Frances Rice on local FL TV - Debunking Republican Racism

VertiCon wrote:
WhatsNotToLike? wrote:
(Being educated at state universities didn't help either - regardless of what anyone says, the instructors are there to indoctrinate, and mine were classically liberal).


I think typically liberal might be a better way to put it.

Classical liberalism, as a technical expression, usually refers to those who write in the enlightenment political theory of John Locke -- i.e. John Stuart Mill, Alexis De Toqueville, Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson/James Madison.

When Americans use the term "liberal", nowadays, (in a political sense) they generally mean those who favor government intervention into the marketplace after the manner of FDR. And, that is a whole different animal that Jeffersonian liberalism.

Jeffersonian liberalism is something like our present day libertarians. Whereas, the folks we call liberals are more like European Social Democrats -- a kind of socialism-lite.

Thanks for those definitions, and yes, "typically liberal" is a better description of my university profs, even 30 years ago. I stand corrected :)

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