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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 1:30 pm 
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Step right up, ladies and gentlemen, for a fascinating look into the workings of the liberal mind. :roll:

http://money.msn.com/how-to-budget/arti ... &GT1=33029
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Why you should love $5 gas

Stop grousing about the numbers at the pump. All of this could be good for you and good for America.

By doubleace on Tue, Apr 19, 2011 8:58 AM
Updated: May 25, 2011, 8:10 p.m. ET



This post is by Lynn Mucken of MSN Money.



As you pump 13 gallons into your Honda CR-V -- American's best-selling SUV with 28 mpg on the highway and 21 in town -- it's nearly impossible to view the $50 you're spending with a positive attitude.


With the national average for regular at $3.81, it's easy to label oil executives as pond scum, but try to remain open-minded. Think of the big picture: Though that promised road trip to Disney World has gone up in carbon monoxide, high gas prices may actually have an upside. Not for you and your family personally, maybe, but perhaps for the United States as a whole.


What if gas hit $5 a gallon? Here are some benefits (and we're serious about most of them):


Fewer people would die on the road. The less you drive, the more likely you will survive, if the events of 2008, the year of the most recent gas price surge, are correct. In 2007, 30,527 died in vehicle accidents in the U.S., according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. In 2008, that number dropped 12%, to 26,791.


This mainly was attributed to a decrease in highway speeds. Also contributing was a 2% drop in miles driven, from 3.03 trillion to 2.97 trillion, despite a 1.7% increase in the number of registered vehicles. On the negative side, with many turning to more economical modes of transportation, motorcycle deaths rose 2.6% in 2008 and bicycle deaths 1%.

Demand for high-mileage cars could grow. The key word here is "could." Hybrid sales rose quickly in 2007 as gas prices climbed, then dropped noticeably in the second half of 2008 as gas prices plummeted from over $4 to $1.60. This time around, despite gas prices climbing steadily over the past year, hybrid cars shrunk from 2.9% of new vehicle sales in 2009 to 2.4% in 2010, according to Ward's Auto. Meanwhile, sales of trucks, SUVs, crossovers and minivans rose from 48% of the market to 51% from 2009 to 2010. In addition, the average fuel economy rating of new vehicles sold in 2010 was 22.2 mpg, down from 22.3 mpg in 2009.

That proves, of course, that Americans love their big vehicles. It could turn out to be different this time around. For one thing, there will be far more gas-efficient options available, plus all-electrics like the Chevrolet Volt and the soon-to-be-launched Ford Focus Electric.



Shorter security lines. Airlines fares are extremely fuel-price reactive. Soon, hardly anyone will be able to afford to fly willy-nilly around the country or globe. You will breeze through the maze of airport checkpoints. (This was my personal favorite :roll: )


Less pollution. Less driving means cleaner air. According to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, "pollution from vehicles causes two of our worst air pollution problems, smog and carbon monoxide." There are no solid figures on how many Americans die annually from car-produced pollution, but a 2008 study by Great Britain's University of Birmingham linked pneumonia deaths to pollution from motor vehicles.


Less congestion. Ever notice how well rush-hour freeway traffic flows on the minor holidays when most of the rest of us are working? A 2% drop in miles driven can make a big difference, allowing you to drive faster, although you now won't want to. According to the Department of Energy, on average every 5 mph you drive over 60 is like paying an extra 24 cents per gallon (based on a $3.79 price).


High prices lead to lower prices. Mackubin Thomas Owens, a professor of national-security affairs at the Naval War College and the editor of Orbis, the journal of the Foreign Policy Research Institute, theorizes that if gas prices rise enough, the government will open up areas now closed to oil production and oil companies will be able to invest in more-expensive methods of extracting oil. Soon we will be drowning in the stuff, and prices will drop again.


More exercise. The Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development estimates that by 2020, three out of four Americans will be categorized as overweight or obese. So, it can't hurt to walk the three blocks to the grocery or bike to school or work.



"When gas hits $4 a gallon, a lot of people come in looking for options," said Tim Blumenthal, the president of Bikes Belong Coalition. "Bike commuting jumped 44% between 2000 and 2010, with a big part of that in 2008. Still, more than half of all bike trips are three miles or less, so we're seeing racks and baskets (sold) for those who have multiple stops to make on the way home."


End of wars. According to National Defense Magazine, the cost of "in theater" gasoline to our troops in Afghanistan can range from $100 to $600. The Army estimated fuel can cost up to $400 a gallon if the only way to ship it is via helicopters. (Black Hawk helicopters get 0.74 mpg, while F15-E strike fighters get 0.41 mpg.) And that was last year's prices. Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya might get too expensive for America's taste.




Local businesses could profit. If you can't afford to drive out to Wal-Mart or Home Depot, you may be buying instead at the local supermarket or neighborhood hardware store. In addition, as the cost of transporting, say, grapes from Chile, goes out of sight, you may turn to regional farmers for your produce.




It's all about democracy. If we let up on the gas pedal, we'll starve those oil-rich despots out of existence. Oh, we import as much from Canada as from Saudi Arabia and Venezuela combined.





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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 2:27 pm 
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What to say. My favorite one they come up with is that high gas could force us to surrender in Iraq and Afghanistan... This is a benefit how, exactly?

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Ironically, these are the same people who were excoriating W. for the high gas prices & his "big oil" ties. Now, we're supposed to thank Obama, I suppose.


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Don't these people realize that more people will die on the roads as a result of the higher gas prices? Sure, people will drive less, but they will also drive more fuel-efficient cars that are smaller, lighter, and more dangerous.


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This article is disgusting and elitist. Our youth group isn't taking a mission trip they planned to serve at an Indian reservation because gas went up too much. They will serve here in the local community instead. The snotty lauding of shorter lines in airport security. Yeah, because a lot of families won't get a chance to go on a vacation at all while the wealthy this article is presumably aimed at breeze through security. Meanwhile families like mine for whom a vacation is a far off fantasy even if gas were $2 a gallon are having to decide whether to buy food or gas. It costs us $10 a day for my husband to commute to work. He drives 25 miles away because he has to work where there are wealthy people but we have to live where poor people can afford to live. We're spending about 20% of our income on gas. I have a 16 yr. old son that needs new jeans (every pair has holes in the knees) and because of the price of gas he won't be getting them. Plus eventually the cost of gas will force my husband's clients to get fewer massages which means a drop in income for us. Most of his clients are wealthy and don't feel the pinch like the rest of us but he has some that are middle class and they'll be the first ones to cut back. Liberals claim to care so much about the poor but they just want us to be slaves. This kind of stuff makes me so angry!

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Where is the thumbs up button? I thought this was a forum that had them.


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This article is disgusting and elitist. Our youth group isn't taking a mission trip they planned to serve at an Indian reservation because gas went up too much. They will serve here in the local community instead. The snotty lauding of shorter lines in airport security. Yeah, because a lot of families won't get a chance to go on a vacation at all while the wealthy this article is presumably aimed at breeze through security. Meanwhile families like mine for whom a vacation is a far off fantasy even if gas were $2 a gallon are having to decide whether to buy food or gas. It costs us $10 a day for my husband to commute to work. He drives 25 miles away because he has to work where there are wealthy people but we have to live where poor people can afford to live. We're spending about 20% of our income on gas. I have a 16 yr. old son that needs new jeans (every pair has holes in the knees) and because of the price of gas he won't be getting them. Plus eventually the cost of gas will force my husband's clients to get fewer massages which means a drop in income for us. Most of his clients are wealthy and don't feel the pinch like the rest of us but he has some that are middle class and they'll be the first ones to cut back. Liberals claim to care so much about the poor but they just want us to be slaves. This kind of stuff makes me so angry!


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Elitist, yes. I found this statement to fall into that category:

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Local businesses could profit. If you can't afford to drive out to Wal-Mart or Home Depot, you may be buying instead at the local supermarket or neighborhood hardware store.


The writer must be a city dweller who doesn't understand that for many of us, Wal-Mart and Home Depot are just as close as any other store we could choose to go to, and just as "local" as any other of the supermarkets that serve many of us, which happen to also be national chains, such as Kroger and Safeway.


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ColoradoMom4Huckabee, very true. The Walmart is 2 miles away. The Home Depot is a mile away. The King Soopers is just over 2 miles away. Obviously someone is a bit clueless as to how we live here in the rest of the country.

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Yeah, Wal-Marts are on just about every corner. Why would you start shopping at one of those more expensive places because you have less money? Doesn't make any sense. The people writing this probably live in a large metropolitian area like New York City where they don't have Wal-Marts. Where I grew up in Texas, they're everywhere.

There are fewer Wal-Marts here in Michigan, but they still have Target, and Meijer is really popular. K-Mart is practically out of business here, although there are still some around.


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