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 Post subject: Newsweek: Why Did Romney Endorse McCain?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:39 am 
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'....According to a source close to Romney, who asked not to be identified discussing internal campaign strategy, the former Massachusetts governor was spurred to action by Huckabee's "decision to linger against impossible odds, delaying the launch of a general-election campaign ... We were going to endorse at some point. The only question was when. Doing it now seemed to have added value, given that Huckabee continues to be a presence."...'

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the sign of true fear about Huckabee

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 Post subject: Re: Newsweek: Why Did Romney Endorse McCain?
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None of them are used to a candidate who makes a commitment - a promise that won't be broken as soon as they have the voter's support. Along comes Mike & they don't know what to do.
O'Reilly is having the body language expert eval McCain/Romney on Monday. I didn't need an expert to tell me that McCain couldn't stand being next to Romney even when he was giving him what he wanted. I even kinda felt sorry for Romney. He kept saying he wasn't part of the establishment. He is now. Didn't look like it felt very good. :cry:

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Somebody should make a video of all the bad things Romney said about McCain and then at the end have the video of the endorsement.


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 Post subject: Re: Newsweek: Why Did Romney Endorse McCain?
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You want to know why Romney endorsed McCain the time he did? I'll tell you why...

I've said that Romney's concession speech at CPAC was one of the most selfish speeches I've seen in a long time. He hid his true intentions within just about every line that came out of his mouth that day. People in the media tried to spin that speech and believed that he was really giving up for the betterment of the Republican party; that he actually cared about the war in Iraq/on terror, and that he was doing everything for "you" (the people/his supporters). All of this of course, was a lie.

Romney quit the race for HIMSELF, not for the people, nor for the Republican party. He quit because he knew none of his plans worked out due to Huckabee stopping each and every plan he had, either with help, or by himself (Huck). Romney's "plan A" was killed by Mike in Iowa, after he spent over $10 million in attack ads. His "plan D" (winning the southern states) on Super Tuesday was also killed by Mike. He just couldn't beat Mike in true conservative states. So he dropped out because he didn't want to spend another $40 million to barely beat out Mike and eventually lose anyway. However, that concession speech was all about Mitt, to set himself up to support McCain in hopes of Mac asking him to be VP.

Romney's endorsement came after he saw Mike win in Kansas and Louisiana and barely lose in Virginia, with the media pouncing on Mike yet again. Romney saw that this was his chance to finish Mike off so that Mike won't get a chance to surpass him in delegate count and was also a great opportunity to suck up to McCain again, in hopes of getting the VP spot. Mitt doesn't like losing, like he said. But what's worse than not getting the "gold?" Getting the "bronze." Mitt wanted revenge on Mike as well as the VP spot. So this was a great opportunity to kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

Being the businessman he is, he does not want to see no return on his investment. If he couldn't be President now, he wants to at least try to be VP. If not VP, he wants to act like some sort of selfless savior of the Republican party and a leader of the conservative movement. Wasting roughly 20% of his net wealth, $40+ million, HAS to buy him SOMETHING. Too bad all it bought Mitt was a "bronze" medal and a bunch of pissed off supporters. Mike will still press on, not only passing Mitt in delegate count, but at the very least, gathering an army of TRUE conservatives for future endeavors. Mike will either EARN his Presidential nominee or go down fighting and become the leading voice of TRUE conservatives, as well as the Christian community. Mitt will fade away because there's no way McCain would lower himself to ask Romney to be his VP. And if Mac does, he's even more sad than Romney is.

In the end, Mitt endorsed McCain to benefit himself, as usual. Mitt only cares about Mitt. He's so transparent to non-gullible people, it's not even funny. Actually, it is pretty funny. Romney screwed up yet again. Endorsing McCain only further separated his remaining supporters away from him. He came out looking like the biggest hypocrite to those with half a brain, people that knew about his attack ads, dirty tactics, flip-flopping record, and people that knew about his animosity against McCain not even 2 weeks ago. As Mike would say, Romney's just the latest "me too" crowd, nothing more.

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Somebody should make a video of all the bad things Romney said about McCain and then at the end have the video of the endorsement.


That video would be way too long. It's impossible to fit "all the bad things Romney said about McCain." :P

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 Post subject: Re: Newsweek: Why Did Romney Endorse McCain?
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You know, if McCain gets the nomination, the democrats could actually recycle Romney's smear ads against McCain and run them as their own.

Let me say up front that I think McCain is a good guy and is not nearly as terrible as many make him out to be. I could probably pull the lever for him in a general election. However, I will not pull the lever for a McCain/Romney ticket because I think that represents the epitome of what makes Americans, especially ordinary Republicans, tired and apathetic of politics.

This whole Romney endorsement makes me very disgusted for many reasons. First, I really don't think that there is any way of denying that this is the nail in the coffin that Romney's campaign has always been about himself. I feel bad for Romney supporters who truly thought their guy was the sole voice for conservatism, who thought he was the one guy holding to principle. If that were the case, he would have either not endorsed at all or endorsed Huckabee. I'm not saying that McCain isn't generally conservative; I'm saying that you just can't go out and discredit your opponent while convincing conservatives that you are right, and then go and endorse the candidate who you claimed was no different than Hilary, is part of the Washington problem and therefore the last person who needs to be in the White House, and say he wanted to be Kerry's running mate.

I look at the whole situation like this: It's like little Johnny who is the star of the football team, but has failing grades and cannot play by school policy. But his father knows that that will ruin his full ride to college, so he writes a seven-figure check to the school toward their new Science Dept extension building. As a result, Johnny gets to play on some obscure technicality, keeps his full ride, and the new science building gets named after their family.

I think this is disgusting because Romney's decision essentially told the remaining states that they have no voice. Texas was finally not going to be overshadowed by California. Smaller, often ignored states were going to be decisive. Romney's decision has done to those states exactly what his campaign did to his non-supporters: it alienated them and shut them out.

I think now is a time for Huck supporters to make their voices louder and stronger than ever before. I think we still need to show up in large numbers. We need to remember that Romney's delegates must remain pledged to him at the first round of the convention, and are only freed up after that. Even if Huck's campaign reaches a stage of nothing more than a pipe dream, I think the short bus can still have a voice that will not go unheard.

And if there is a McCain/Romney ticket, I think I will likely change my party affiliation.

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 Post subject: Re: Newsweek: Why Did Romney Endorse McCain?
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There was a great article I read over at Politico about a month ago that talked about why Romney was having a hard time getting the support of fellow GOP Governors. They quoted aids to different Governors talking about how when Mitt was the head of the GOP Governors Association that he only cared about positioning himself for his Presidential run. One aid said that if you asked Romney for anything that he wanted something in return like donor lists or pledges of support. Apparently Romney made a lot of those guys mad during that time.

Everything Romney does is about Self-Promotion. The problem is that he's STILL running on a GOP Playbook that is outdated. He ran the standard establishment campaign and failed misreably. Now he's doing the standard establishment thing which is to get out and endorse to try and win brownie points with the establishment. What he still doesn't get is that what plays well among the establishment doesn't work among the grass roots voters. Once again he's making a calculated move that won't work. Most of the voters who were skeptical of him are going to be EVEN MORE skeptical of him now.

There's no doubt he's trying to steal some of Huckabee's thunder. He doesn't like the headlines Huckabee got out of winning Kansas and Louisiana, and he definitely doesn't like the prospects of Huckabee winning possibly winning Texas. This is a shameless attempt to try and upstage Mike Huckabee that rings very shallow.

I've followed politics a long time, and studied it even further back. Let me tell you with all sincereity and honesty that I've never seen a more fake, phony, and completely self-absorded major Presidential candidate than Mitt Romney. Off the top of my head I'm going back 50 years, and I can't come up with anyone that even comes close.


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So many thoughts in my head that I need to get out!

Oh the irony...The guy who said "A vote for Huckabee is a vote for McCain" now pledges his delegates to McCain, essentially making "a vote for Romney a vote for McCain" (can't claim credit for that one).

The guy who ran ads saying that McCain is essentially no different than Hilary and says he is part of the problem in Washington now endorses him as the best guy for the job.

The guy who wanted the voice of conservatives to be heard hands the nomination to McCain, essentially silencing the voice of the remaining states.

The guy who went into Iowa running on immigration as if it was his sole priority endorses the candidate who tried to cut a back-room amnesty deal.

The business owner who ran as such for the past month removes healthy competition and creates a political monopoly by endorsing the front-runner.

The guy who employed conservative talk radio to unleash its relentless attacks on John McCain now befriends him instead.

Or perhaps most disturbing... The one attacked by smears and ads by a single candidate who ran more ads than all the other Republican candidates combined now claims that Romney has a "hard, intensive, fine, HONORABLE campaign."

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 Post subject: Re: Newsweek: Why Did Romney Endorse McCain?
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Gambit, I agree with everything you said, except that Romney isn't shooting for VP. He's shooting for 2012, figuring McCain will either lose 2008, or not run again in 2012.

This wasn't about supporting McCain for Mitt's sake. It was about shooting Mike in the foot for Mitt's sake.

Every state Mike wins in 2008 puts him ahead of Mitt in 2012.

WalterCan, I agree 100% -- McCain isn't terrible, and the only position Mitt is consistent on is that he's 100% pro-Mitt.


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McCain and Romney just made their first very big mistake. It seems their strategy of "Romney endorsing McCain" was to bring more evangelicals to McCains base and seek to impact the upcoming primaries.

It would have better for Romney to stay suspended and hold onto his delegates until convention because the delegates would have to vote the way Romney wanted.

But now if it goes to convention, former Romney delegates are now free to vote however they please. So it seems this is a blessing in disguise as long as Huck supporters continue to come out strong in the upcoming primaries.


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Here's something else to remember. This move by Romney was calculated to give him some clout by helping McCain to go ahead and finish Huckabee off.

If we win or come very close to winning in Texas then it will be seen as NOT ONLY a rejection of McCain by conservatives, but it will be seen as a rejection of Romney's endorsement!

By winning Texas we can not only deal a blow to McCain but to Romney as well. ALL THE MORE reason to work our tails off to win that.


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You guys are all awesome and inspire me so much. All the things that need to be said are said here with such a high degree of passion but without vitriol contempt. You all have learned a lot from Huck. I am proud to be a Huckabee supporter; and I am equally proud to align myself with this great group of people that call themselves "Hucks Army"!

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[quote="GAMOM4HUCK"]You guys are all awesome and inspire me so much. All the things that need to be said are said here with such a high degree of passion but without vitriol contempt. You all have learned a lot from Huck. I am proud to be a Huckabee supporter; and I am equally proud to align myself with this great group of people that call themselves "Hucks Army"!

March on!

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MARCH FORTH!

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 Post subject: Re: Newsweek: Why Did Romney Endorse McCain?
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"Let me tell you with all sincereity and honesty that I've never seen a more fake, phony, and completely self-absorded major Presidential candidate than Mitt Romney."

I SO agree with that statement! Not only do I feel that way about Romney now, but have from the get-go of this race. He also seems to carry himself with a certain self-consciousness. Odd fellow. Out of his element. He should stick to the business world; he's more comfortable there.


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