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The problem with Mike's statement is that Obama didn't "suggest[] borders of Israel go back to pre-1967 borders," though that's the way the AP had been reporting it.

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Please explain the confusion.....where does Obama stand on this?


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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05 ... st-speech/

here is the full text of Obama's speech


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I'll tell you what. The Pres keeps on this course, there is trouble a brewing.

If there is something that was intentionally intended to provoke Israel, then this was it.

I will say, there is no Republican more qualified to speak to this issue than Michael Dale Huckabee.

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This is a direct quote from Obama's Speech

"The United States believes that negotiations should result in two states, with permanent Palestinian borders with Israel, Jordan, and Egypt, and permanent Israeli borders with Palestine. The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05 ... z1Mp6BsVTd

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The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states. The Palestinian people must have the right to govern themselves, and reach their potential, in a sovereign and contiguous state.

........Stand up for Israel......


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The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states. The Palestinian people must have the right to govern themselves, and reach their potential, in a sovereign and contiguous state.

........Stand up for Israel......


He said "1967 lines," not "pre-1967 lines," that's all I was saying. I don't know enough about the history of US calls for peace between Israel and Palestine to be able to make an educated comment as to what kind of a shift in policy his statements represent.

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He would make a great Prez. :balling

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Netanyahu responds:

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Reacting to Obama's speech, Benjamin Netanyahu rejected a full withdrawal from the West Bank, saying the 1967 lines were "indefensible" and would leave major Jewish settlements outside Israel. Netanyahu rejects any pullout from east Jerusalem.

Netanyahu heads to the White House on Friday and said he would seek clarifications.


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Hmmm, I wonder how Danny Danon feels knowing Huckabee is not running...

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Knesset members on the Right expressed outrage on Thursday night at US President Barack Obama’s call for the creation of a Palestinian state based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps in an exchange of territory for security.

They called upon Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu to reject Obama’s plan when he meets with him on Friday in Washington.

“Barack Hussein Obama adopted the staged plan for Israel’s destruction of Yasser Arafat, and he is trying to force it on our prime minister,” said Likud MK Danny Danon. “All that was new in the speech was that he called for Israel to return to 1967 borders without solving the crisis. Netanyahu has only one option: To tell Obama forget about it.”

National Union MK Michael Ben-Ari also slammed Obama’s speech, calling it “a landmine with pretty wrapping.”


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In the end it appears Isreal may have needed a President Mike Huckabee much worse than America needed a President Mike Huckabee...


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I was thinking that since Huckabee is not running, he would make one great Ambassador to Israel when the Republicans take over the white house in 2012.

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Wonder if any of our current class of candidates has or will comment on this situation? You can bet Romney won't, as his strategy is to just play it safe and hope the rest of the GOP field either fails to gain traction or shoots itself in the foot (e.g. Newt). Huck could've ran with Obama's fumble here if he had..................oh, never mind. :(

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Wonder if any of our current class of candidates has or will comment on this situation? You can bet Romney won't, as his strategy is to just play it safe and hope the rest of the GOP field either fails to gain traction or shoots itself in the foot (e.g. Newt). Huck could've ran with Obama's fumble here if he had..................oh, never mind. :(


I could see Romney weighing in on this one. I think he's tried to stake himself out as a neocon/hawk on foreign policy as much as anything else, and this is a great opportunity for him to get some attention in that regard.

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Here is an article with reactions from several candidates.

Romney said Obama threw Israel under the bus.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama_mideast_republicans

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Yep, we give many times as much foreign aid collectively to Israel's enemies than to Israel.
Then we abuse Israel's sovereignty by using the leverage of that money given to
undermine Israel's security by dictating what she is to do.
At one time or another, all that money becomes a ball and chain.
In the end it makes us more isolated as everyone drooling at our bankrupt table
except, perhaps Israel, really hate us anyway.
It even ends up driving Israel away, when taken to these extremes.
Our insane foreign policy treats the great nation of Israel as a little brat child and not the competent adult that she is.

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Here is an article with reactions from several candidates.

Romney said Obama threw Israel under the bus.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama_mideast_republicans


Wow, Mitt actually said something brave (or politically calculating..............I'll go with the later). 8)

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This is one of the worst foreign policy proposals I have seen from a sitting President in my life-time. It isn't just that the proposal is bad, but the message it sends at this time in history is completely baffling. We've just had Abbas walk away from negotiations and negotiate a deal with Hamas essentially leaving Israel high and dry in the negotiating process. Egypt is moving more toward an Anti-Israel position. And the Prime Minister of Israel is set to visit within 24 hours who we've just blind-sided!

Netanyahu has publicly maintained since he came into office that going back to pre-1967 borders is a non-starter and makes Israel too vulnerable. The Obama administration is well aware of this so to propose this right before he is to visit is a major affront. It sends a message to Hamas and all of Israel's enemies that the U.S. will reward bad behavior and ask Israel to give up their rights just for the sake of mideast political correctness.


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The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states. The Palestinian people must have the right to govern themselves, and reach their potential, in a sovereign and contiguous state.

........Stand up for Israel......


He said "1967 lines," not "pre-1967 lines," that's all I was saying. I don't know enough about the history of US calls for peace between Israel and Palestine to be able to make an educated comment as to what kind of a shift in policy his statements represent.


I don't know enough about America's policy statements, but yesterday on radio and television I heard Hannity talk about Pres. George Bush's 2004 promise to Israel that we would never make them give up their land. However, Condoleeza Rice seemed to try to make Israel give concessions. I agreed with Hannity on television last night that it is suicidal to make Israel give the West Bank to the terrorists (Hamas and Fatah) and leave only an eight mile wide land bridge between north and south parts of Israel. Hannity also mentioned that every one of the land accessions that Israel has made have been after being attacked by the Egyptians or other Arab states. That includes the 1967 war and those previous and after.

Now, what does Obama mean by saying that Israel would only have one border according to his plan: the one with Palestine (the state he hopes to forcefully make, along with Hamas, Fatah, and the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt)? This sounds ominous. And then he says that Palestine will border Egypt, Jordan, and Israel. He hopes Americans are too dumb to know what this means! It would mean that Palestine would also take over the Sinai Peninsula, and the Suez canal, cutting off the most important shipping lanes from Israel. It would mean surrounding her with hostile enemies, dividing her capital city of Jerusalem, giving her most holy sites to the terrorist control. This is for lack of a better word, an evil, evil plan. Obama basically agrees with the terrorists--Israel does not have the right to exist.

We really need to pray for Netanyahu as he comes to America to again plead with this President.

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