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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:52 am 
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On another note, Romney got almost the same exact number of votes this time around as he got in 2008, literally within about 4 votes of that 2008 result. A real surge of support there. :roll:

Some other guy who decided not to run had over 40,000 votes in 2008. Shame he sat this one out. :(

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AP says that Romney wins it by 8 votes!!!! :barf

Article also verifies that he got less of the vote than in 2008 -
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/ ... 4-00-15-19


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Just wanted to add that the Paulites were definitely out tonight. They mobbed my precinct and took over the delegate nomination, so we now have Paulites as our county delegates. URRRR!

Like I said, we had a SuperCaucus and we had a huge line of people who needed to Register as Republicans before they could vote. There were some legit Independents or Dems that were switching, but there were a lot of young people and people that the people at the Registration table thought were Dems switching over. I heard similar stories from other precincts.


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Prediction: 20% chance that there will be "someone else" entering the race--a Palin or Huckabee, so say a couple of guys on the Fox News panel. Brokered convention. Maybe in jest.

I really had fun switching back and forth between Fox News and Fox Business. Neil Cavuto and Pat Caddell were so funny.

Eight vote win by Romney, now can you believe that?

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IowaforHuckabee wrote:
Just wanted to add that the Paulites were definitely out tonight. They mobbed my precinct and took over the delegate nomination, so we now have Paulites as our county delegates. URRRR!

Like I said, we had a SuperCaucus and we had a huge line of people who needed to Register as Republicans before they could vote. There were some legit Independents or Dems that were switching, but there were a lot of young people and people that the people at the Registration table thought were Dems switching over. I heard similar stories from other precincts.


Just wanted to clarify, they didn't actually "mob" our precinct, but whereas a chunk of the people went home immediately after voting, the Paulites stayed and stood around (many of them who I had just seen register tonight) until the voting for the delegates took place, then voted for their guys to be delegates. They outnumbered the non-Paulite people probably about 3 to 1.


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IowaforHuckabee wrote:
Just wanted to add that the Paulites were definitely out tonight. They mobbed my precinct and took over the delegate nomination, so we now have Paulites as our county delegates. URRRR!

Like I said, we had a SuperCaucus and we had a huge line of people who needed to Register as Republicans before they could vote. There were some legit Independents or Dems that were switching, but there were a lot of young people and people that the people at the Registration table thought were Dems switching over. I heard similar stories from other precincts.


Now that is sad! This is one thing that really bothers me. In Republican races only registered (ahead of time) voters in the party should vote. When we allow this kind of open voting it makes the primary (or caucus) process a joke. A sad joke, I know.

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IowaforHuckabee wrote:
Just wanted to add that the Paulites were definitely out tonight. They mobbed my precinct and took over the delegate nomination, so we now have Paulites as our county delegates. URRRR!

Like I said, we had a SuperCaucus and we had a huge line of people who needed to Register as Republicans before they could vote. There were some legit Independents or Dems that were switching, but there were a lot of young people and people that the people at the Registration table thought were Dems switching over. I heard similar stories from other precincts.


Now that is sad! This is one thing that really bothers me. In Republican races only registered (ahead of time) voters in the party should vote. When we allow this kind of open voting it makes the primary (or caucus) process a joke. A sad joke, I know.


Yes, and in New Hampshire, I believe Democrats can cross over and vote Republican also.

So it looks like Romney and Santorum will both have the same amount of delegates, so I would call it a tie!


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Wait, so the paul people could control most of the delegates despite fact he lost? Would they be so undemocratic?

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The funny thing is that Santorum and Romney get the same number of delegates - 7 - at the convention. So, in terms of what really matters in the long term, it's a tie.

Brokered convention, here we come!

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IowaforHuckabee wrote:
IowaforHuckabee wrote:
Just wanted to add that the Paulites were definitely out tonight. They mobbed my precinct and took over the delegate nomination, so we now have Paulites as our county delegates. URRRR!

Like I said, we had a SuperCaucus and we had a huge line of people who needed to Register as Republicans before they could vote. There were some legit Independents or Dems that were switching, but there were a lot of young people and people that the people at the Registration table thought were Dems switching over. I heard similar stories from other precincts.


Just wanted to clarify, they didn't actually "mob" our precinct, but whereas a chunk of the people went home immediately after voting, the Paulites stayed and stood around (many of them who I had just seen register tonight) until the voting for the delegates took place, then voted for their guys to be delegates. They outnumbered the non-Paulite people probably about 3 to 1.


OK, this is sadder! Now the Republican Party in Iowa will surely change the open registration rules!? I think it's time to get some sleep. :shock: If we can. A historic night for Iowans. Congratulations to Santorum, who was the real winner. For now. Governor Huckabee would have made the race so different. Yes, there is perplexity in the Republican Party, trying to find an acceptable candidate to beat Obama. Pray.

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What a contrast......Newt never looked at notes during his entire speech, Bachmann has never looked up from hers! :lol:
Skipped over to CNN for a few minutes (couldn't stomach any longer there) and one commentator said that after Santorum's moving speech, the Romney campaign yanked the teleprompter down and made Mittens give the same speech he had given earlier that day. I am excited to watch Rick take him on from here on out! Game On! :pompom



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Okay, I just read this, came over here to post it & see you all are already talking about some of it. I've got a bad feeling about this!

EXCLUSIVE: Ron Paul May Have Just Secretly Won Iowa

http://www.businessinsider.com/ron-paul ... n=politics


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And the paulbots wonder why they're not well liked?

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QuoVadisAnima wrote:
Okay, I just read this, came over here to post it & see you all are already talking about some of it. I've got a bad feeling about this!

EXCLUSIVE: Ron Paul May Have Just Secretly Won Iowa

http://www.businessinsider.com/ron-paul ... n=politics


A sick feeling!

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QuoVadisAnima wrote:
Okay, I just read this, came over here to post it & see you all are already talking about some of it. I've got a bad feeling about this!

EXCLUSIVE: Ron Paul May Have Just Secretly Won Iowa

http://www.businessinsider.com/ron-paul ... n=politics
Isn't it ironic that the man who claims to be so pro-Constitution has supporters so bent on disenfranchising the voter and trashing the democratic process. :wall


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Congratulations Santorum!

The saddest part about this whole night was Mike showing up to give his analysis in a purple tie :balling



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Ok, I think to me the results of Iowa election night are not that bad or depressing:

a) Romney lost to --- Santorum! (Ok, Romney won by 8 votes)
b) Paul came in third
c) With Perry maybe/probably out (and hopefully Bachmann too......) the conservative vote becomes much less diluted = much higher chance that Romney can be thrown out by the 75% of GOP voters that do not want him as their nominee

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now that Perry and Bachmann are out, I'm totally in with Santorum

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The funny thing is that Santorum and Romney get the same number of delegates - 7 - at the convention. So, in terms of what really matters in the long term, it's a tie.

Brokered convention, here we come!


Actually, I Romney gets 13 delegates and Santorum gets 12, according to Fox New's website. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/electio ... cus-jan-3/


But still, it is basically like a tie. One cannot really say Romney is the "front runner" when he only won by 8 votes. That is pretty much a tie, because who is to say there weren't some votes counted wrong. I don't think a recount should be done in this case, but if it was a a general election, there probably would be a recount--no questions asked.

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http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-hab ... 09557.html
By JONATHAN MARTIN | 1/4/12 9:48 AM EST
A group of movement conservatives has called an emergency meeting in Texas next weekend to find a "consensus" Republican presidential hopeful, POLITICO has learned.

"You and your spouse are cordially invited to a private meeting with national conservative leaders of faith at the ranch of Paul and Nancy Pressler near Brenham, Texas, with the purpose of attempting to unite and to come to a consensus on which Republican Presidential candidate or candidates to support, or which not to support," read an invitation that is making its way into in-boxes this morning.

The meeting is being hosted by such right-leaning figures as James Dobson, Don Wildmon and Gary Bauer. Many of the individuals on the host list attended a previous closed-door session with Rick Perry this summer.

Movement conservatives are concerned that a vote split between Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum among base voters could enable Mitt Romney.

A source who shared the invitation said the meeting was about how to avoid such a possibility.

Despite his distant fourth in Iowa, Gingrich has shown no inclination to quit the race.


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